CLAP... thoughts?

[_leras]

Worked for Adobe...

Adboe was much more of a standard, and in several different areas across publishing...

For anything music I doubt there can be any lockout - there are two many competing options.

I could see several providers providing a reasonably compelling offering at the right price. And some things like Splice seem to have already grabbed some market share in their sample content area. So it may happen to an extent.

I could certainly see 'rental' to someome starting out being quite a good option if they can get a DAW, instruments and fx i.e. a full set ofd production tools at a reasonable monthly rate.

I don't see it ever being much of an option for people who've already spent time and money creating a setup that works for them.

[glokraw]

Worked for Adobe...

Younger family members took advantage of the initial Adobe subscription, enabling them
to learn expensive software that would later be used in their future education and career opportunities, paying for itself in mega units of advancement.

Reasonably priced subscriptions are fine by me. I have yet to need a subscribed product, but it's all about need and value, should that change. The market will set adjust the prices and alternatives in due time.
Cheers

[rasmus_b]

As unfortunate as the name may be, I for one welcome CLAP (no pun intended). It may not make a huge difference to end-users right now, but in the long run it is essential for the industry to have truly free and open standards that are not controlled by the likes of Steinberg.

[zzz00m]

As unfortunate as the name may be, I for one welcome CLAP (no pun intended).

That appears to be a hangup mainly for English speakers.

[pdxindy]

As unfortunate as the name may be, I for one welcome CLAP (no pun intended).

That appears to be a hangup mainly for English speakers.

And only a few of them...

[elxsound]

As unfortunate as the name may be, I for one welcome CLAP (no pun intended). It may not make a huge difference to end-users right now, but in the long run it is essential for the industry to have truly free and open standards that are not controlled by the likes of Steinberg.

I don't think I'll understand why the word clap, when used in the music realm, would be more closely attached to an STD, than, say... a clap like you hear in countless music. It's not like anyone made fun of drum libraries with hits named clap, or when clap is written on a drum machine.

I also think it's a different era. I'm not even young anymore but that's not a word I ever heard used, except from people of my parent's generation (and older).

[Erisian]

As unfortunate as the name may be, I for one welcome CLAP (no pun intended). It may not make a huge difference to end-users right now, but in the long run it is essential for the industry to have truly free and open standards that are not controlled by the likes of Steinberg.

I don't think I'll understand why the word clap, when used in the music realm, would be more closely attached to an STD, than, say... a clap like you hear in countless music. It's not like anyone made fun of drum libraries with hits named clap, or when clap is written on a drum machine.

I also think it's a different era. I'm not even young anymore but that's not a word I ever heard used, except from people of my parent's generation (and older).

I think it is just that sometimes when people write about it, their sentences can sound funny to idiots like me who struggle to grow up. I believe it was my generation that invented the STD use of the word. My deepest apologies!!!!!

[Ameyah]

Any CLAP to VST3 wrapper on the way?

And is there a guide how to add CLAP support to JUCE7? (So that one can build it additional to the other formats?)

Really excited for CLAP!!!

[Urs]

Any CLAP to VST3 wrapper on the way?

Yes. I posted a screenshot here:

viewtopic.php?p=8476149#p8476149

[rasmus_b]

I initially intended to just write "I for one welcome CLAP..." but then realised how that could be misread

There is no official JUCE support for CLAP at this point but there is a third party open source project: https://github.com/free-audio/clap-juce-extensions

[rasmusklump]

That is now your second post about the name.
There is an extra thread for this nonsense. Here it isn't allowed.

[rasmus_b]

My apologies, I don't mean upset anyone. I think CLAP is a great initiative.

[hockinsk3]

Just saw an interview with the GPU Audio people and they were excited to say the least. They even said CLAP was crucial to their tech (which is funny since they already implement VST3).

Really looking forward to where GPU Audio is going. The 3D Spatial Audio side is especially going to leverage as yet impossible complex processing on CPUs with 1000's of parallel audio processes with almost no latency. Their developers were discussing this with Sonicstate recently along with the machine learning with continuous training, feedback impression, far more powerful noise cancellation etc. It did sound like the VST SDK is a bottleneck to the GPU though so where CLAP can fill the gap perhaps.

[No_Use]

And is there a guide how to add CLAP support to JUCE7? (So that one can build it additional to the other formats?)

https://github.com/free-audio/clap-juce-extensions

edit:
Already answered above, overlooked...

[rasmus_b]

That is now your second post about the name.
There is an extra thread for this nonsense. Here it isn't allowed.

I actually think the name is important and worth discussing. I found the thread you mention and have posted there instead since the discussion apparently isn't welcome here: viewtopic.php?t=583507&start=121