Resonance Removal - Shootout

[LeVzi]

So many more , so let's hear experiences and how people use them.

Can build a buyer's guide.

[Ploki]

OK So there are quite a few on the market now :

Gulfoss, Soothe 2, Smooth Operator, TEOTE, Reso, DSEQ3

It seems, from what i've been reading, they all pretty much suit different situations.

Gulfoss seems better used on the whole mix
Soothe 2 on tracks or groups same as Smooth Operator
TEOTE seems nice on the whole mix too.
Reso seems specific , so maybe just for tracks or sound design.
DSEQ3 apparently is really versatile , but needs a lot of programming.
TDR Nova GE , not heard of that, so open to input.
MSpectralDynamics , another that was mentioned

These aren't my personal findings from demo's etc, this is what i've been reading on different websites etc.

But with this being KVR, and I value opinions here , i'd like to hear your opinions or personal experiences. And tbh do we even need such plugins over good old fashioned EQ ?

Gullfoss - supposedly fixed filter bank, but more filters than TEOTE (Boosts + cuts) (by more filters i mean more frequency bands)
Soothe2 - FFT (Cuts)
TEOTE - Fixed filter bank (boots + cuts)
Reso - FFT (Cuts)
DSEQ3 - FFT (Boost + cut)
TDR Nova - Dynamic EQ as far as i know (Boost + cut)
MSpectralDynamics - FFT (Boost + cut)

add:
- smartcomp2 (Cut)
- Baby Audio Smooth Operator (Cut)
- iZotope Ozone Spectral Shaper (Cut)

What's special about teote is that it has a fixed (very small) phase distortion. Gullfoss despite reportedly using fixed filter bank like TEOTE, changes phase dynamically with the amount of boosting/cutting (like an EQ).
What TEOTE does is not linearphase, rather minimal phase but cleverly overlapped cross-overs.

FFT and dynamic phase distortion can be mushy on transients, so TEOTE out of all is still the most gentle with transients.

some might have been updated and i have outdated info.

I think Gullfoss and TEOTE overlap a lot and you don't need both.
Soothe2 overlaps the most with DSEQ. Since adding sidechain input, there's some overlap with gullfoss as well.
I think baby audio also has sidechain now.

for resonance suppressors with sidechain there's also overlap with plugs like Trackspacer. I often use Soothe2 in place of Trackspacer (but not when i want transient intact).
Trackspacer is 32-band "notcher" so sort of like TEOTE but only for sidechained scooping.

Mspectraldynamics is insanely powerful but also insanely annoying to use and has high CPU usage.

I use TEOTE and Soothe2 the most and they cover most of what i need to do, both are stable, M1 ready and easy to use. I used to have Gullfoss, I don't miss it - but it's a great plugin anyway.

[LeVzi]

OK So there are quite a few on the market now :

Gulfoss, Soothe 2, Smooth Operator, TEOTE, Reso, DSEQ3

It seems, from what i've been reading, they all pretty much suit different situations.

Gulfoss seems better used on the whole mix
Soothe 2 on tracks or groups same as Smooth Operator
TEOTE seems nice on the whole mix too.
Reso seems specific , so maybe just for tracks or sound design.
DSEQ3 apparently is really versatile , but needs a lot of programming.
TDR Nova GE , not heard of that, so open to input.
MSpectralDynamics , another that was mentioned

These aren't my personal findings from demo's etc, this is what i've been reading on different websites etc.

But with this being KVR, and I value opinions here , i'd like to hear your opinions or personal experiences. And tbh do we even need such plugins over good old fashioned EQ ?

Gullfoss - supposedly fixed filter bank, but more filters than TEOTE (Boosts + cuts) (by more filters i mean more frequency bands)
Soothe2 - FFT (Cuts)
TEOTE - Fixed filter bank (boots + cuts)
Reso - FFT (Cuts)
DSEQ3 - FFT (Boost + cut)
TDR Nova - Dynamic EQ as far as i know (Boost + cut)
MSpectralDynamics - FFT (Boost + cut)

add:
- smartcomp2 (Cut)
- Baby Audio Smooth Operator (Cut)
- iZotope Ozone Spectral Shaper (Cut)

What's special about teote is that it has a fixed (very small) phase distortion. Gullfoss despite reportedly using fixed filter bank like TEOTE, changes phase dynamically with the amount of boosting/cutting (like an EQ).
What TEOTE does is not linearphase, rather minimal phase but cleverly overlapped cross-overs.

FFT and dynamic phase distortion can be mushy on transients, so TEOTE out of all is still the most gentle with transients.

some might have been updated and i have outdated info.

I think Gullfoss and TEOTE overlap a lot and you don't need both.
Soothe2 overlaps the most with DSEQ. Since adding sidechain input, there's some overlap with gullfoss as well.
I think baby audio also has sidechain now.

for resonance suppressors with sidechain there's also overlap with plugs like Trackspacer. I often use Soothe2 in place of Trackspacer (but not when i want transient intact).
Trackspacer is 32-band "notcher" so sort of like TEOTE but only for sidechained scooping.

Mspectraldynamics is insanely powerful but also insanely annoying to use and has high CPU usage.

I use TEOTE and Soothe2 the most and they cover most of what i need to do, both are stable, M1 ready and easy to use. I used to have Gullfoss, I don't miss it - but it's a great plugin anyway.

Thats great, this is what I was getting at. Thanks for the detailed reply.

TEOTE for me at least, its very subtle in what it does. Doesn't seem to affect anything overall. The way I have it set up is pretty minimal tbh.

So the likes of Soothe 2, RESO, DSEQ, and Smooth Operator are more specific frequency removal ?

[Ploki]

Yes. FFT can go up to a lot of bands (1024 - 4096) vs max 64 of TEOTE, which means it can be much more precise in notching out frequencies, however, the "finer" you go with FFT the more you'll do damage with transient response. there's some work arounds like having FFT as a detector and having an automated filter follow what FFT tells it to do for example, but i'm not sure if any of these employ that technique (and it has it's own issue anyway because phase distortion).

I'm not sure what FFT windows these plugins use tho.

[sokoleski]

I use DSEQ quite a bit.. very surgical

But , it only cuts..

Unfortunately , NO boost !

That would have been sweet, and good sounding
I wrote to the DEV , and made a request

[Ploki]

sorry my bad for DSEQ, i thought it does both. been a while since i demoed it

[LeVzi]

When you think about taming resonances, you mainly think about cutting tbh.

So when one of these boosts , that's more like a sweetner than a reasonance tamer then ?

[Ploki]

Gullfoss and teote are more like “balancers” that work against predefined curves. Aleksey used like billboard or something, and gullfoss modelled what’s “pleasing to the ear”. It sort of overlaps.
Also overlaps with pink noise.

Not sure about melda, since it can do pretty much anything

[CinningBao]

I've had the unmentioned sknote's SoundBrigade (in Tame mode) for years and that's kept me happy for a looong time. Apparently a new version is on the horizon, but we all know what excellent long-sighted vision Quinto has.

[eckon]

DeFilter from Acon does a pretty decent job, it's my go to resonance killer.

[Britishboxer]

Don't forget Fabfilter Pro-Q3.

has Resonance Removal?

[neverbefore]

I often use Izotope RX spectral view on the master or stems, manually select the resonance and reduce. The feathering selection is worth exloring although for some bizarre reason they feather into the adjoining frequncy bands but not the time - I requested that ffeature but they couldnt understand the point lol. Spectralayers is probably better for this task as they allow both time and frequency feathering.

It might seem a bit time consuming but it isnt at all

[dionenoid]

Don't forget Fabfilter Pro-Q3.

has Resonance Removal?

https://www.fabfilter.com/help/pro-q/using/spectrumgrab

[Britishboxer]

Don't forget Fabfilter Pro-Q3.

has Resonance Removal?

https://www.fabfilter.com/help/pro-q/using/spectrumgrab

Its funny, I see more of this feature finally showing up against Soothe2 but everyone swears by sooth2, against everything closest to it like TB DESQ and the rest which generally do the same thing but sort of more in one way or another "like Soothe", example smooth Operator, Nova EQ etc etc

[Britishboxer]

Also: Sonible frei:raum, DMG Multiplicity, Zynaptiq Intesnity, Unveil and Unfilter, Kirchoff EQ...

So many unique tools....

these also do resonance removal?