MODO Bass 2 has arrived

[chagzuki]

You need extra keys for all the "articulations" - above and below the actual playing range.

Ah, so does that mean B0 is the lowest tuning possible with the available models?

[jbraner]

Well, it's whatever the lowest note on a 6 string bass is (and then one more step for "drop"?)

[benjamind]

You can do chords in MODO BASS apparently. It is supposed to be easy, and there is a chord switch button. I havent even run MODO BASS 2 on my "new" system and it's been more then 2 years since I build my new sys. And thats where it will be. Until MODO GUITAR, it collects some dust.

Chords are better for guitar than for bass, but bass should sound nice without chords, just some basslines. But without the guitars there useless, at least to me.

[donkey tugger]

Chords are better for guitar than for bass

Lies!

[macmuse]

I have version 1 and couldn’t always use it because some of the notes were off pitch/out of tune as stated in some other people’s posts. How does version 2 compare?

[zzz00m]

Chords are better for guitar than for bass

Lies!

Google "chords on bass".

https://www.studybass.com/lessons/bass- ... -patterns/
Instead of playing chords directly, bassists outline the notes of chords. Bassists emphasize the individual notes that make up chords. By outlining the notes of chords a bassist implies the sound of a particular chord.

I always explain to students it’s like guitarists say a whole word (e.g. “dog”), while bassists spell it out (e.g. “D” “O” “G”). We get the same point across, but in a different way.


https://youtu.be/oZ_Zb8_5Wd0

[donkey tugger]

Chords are better for guitar than for bass

Lies!

Google "chords on bass".

https://www.studybass.com/lessons/bass- ... -patterns/
Instead of playing chords directly, bassists outline the notes of chords. Bassists emphasize the individual notes that make up chords. By outlining the notes of chords a bassist implies the sound of a particular chord.

I always explain to students it’s like guitarists say a whole word (e.g. “dog”), while bassists spell it out (e.g. “D” “O” “G”). We get the same point across, but in a different way.


https://youtu.be/oZ_Zb8_5Wd0

There is, as you say, the valid jazzy type of approach as in that video, and there's also a lot of indie rock bassists who sometimes use bass as a hybrid melodic instrument with strumming. Obvious examples are Peter Hook, e.g,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1PW7uLNzxU

Simon Raymonde of The Cocteau Twins;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjnBEMWkTYg

Debbie Goodge of MBV;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iLFh80VTqk



And then of course there is Lemmy....

[zzz00m]

Chords are better for guitar than for bass

Lies!

Google "chords on bass".

https://www.studybass.com/lessons/bass- ... -patterns/
Instead of playing chords directly, bassists outline the notes of chords. Bassists emphasize the individual notes that make up chords. By outlining the notes of chords a bassist implies the sound of a particular chord.

I always explain to students it’s like guitarists say a whole word (e.g. “dog”), while bassists spell it out (e.g. “D” “O” “G”). We get the same point across, but in a different way.

There is, as you say, the valid jazzy type of approach as in that video, and there's also a lot of indie rock bassists who sometimes use bass as a hybrid melodic instrument with strumming. Obvious examples are Peter Hook, e.g,

Well I wasn't going to go there, but you are right. Thanks for the vids!

But back on topic. including chords in a bass VSTi isn't useless!!!

[donkey tugger]

Chords are better for guitar than for bass

Lies!

Google "chords on bass".

https://www.studybass.com/lessons/bass- ... -patterns/
Instead of playing chords directly, bassists outline the notes of chords. Bassists emphasize the individual notes that make up chords. By outlining the notes of chords a bassist implies the sound of a particular chord.

I always explain to students it’s like guitarists say a whole word (e.g. “dog”), while bassists spell it out (e.g. “D” “O” “G”). We get the same point across, but in a different way.

There is, as you say, the valid jazzy type of approach as in that video, and there's also a lot of indie rock bassists who sometimes use bass as a hybrid melodic instrument with strumming. Obvious examples are Peter Hook, e.g,

Well I wasn't going to go there, but you are right. Thanks for the vids!

But back on topic. including chords in a bass VSTi isn't useless!!!

..and I didn't even get onto the Bass VI (unusual for me.. ) with all the existential questions; is it a bass? Is it a guitar? Is it neither, or both? Do I even exist?

To go back on topic, I'm a bit surprised IK didn't include one, or at least allow tuning from E to E on the models, but as above, maybe it sits in the long fabled, 'Modo Guitar' camp..

[benjamind]

To go back on topic, I'm a bit surprised IK didn't include one, or at least allow tuning from E to E on the models, but as above, maybe it sits in the long fabled, 'Modo Guitar' camp..

It sits in the fabled MODO Guitar camp. I think IK want us to use sampled guitars instead, at least for the time being, or perhaps forever, as the case may be. If only I could be a fly on the wall at IK, if only for a day, I'd know.

[donkey tugger]

To go back on topic, I'm a bit surprised IK didn't include one, or at least allow tuning from E to E on the models, but as above, maybe it sits in the long fabled, 'Modo Guitar' camp..

It sits in the fabled MODO Guitar camp. I think IK want us to use sampled guitars instead, at least for the time being, or perhaps forever, as the case may be. If only I could be a fly on the wall at IK, if only for a day, I'd know.

Ah, but you can (as I do) use it as a normal bass too, albeit one with a short scale, 6 strings and much less space between them.

[jamcat]

..and I didn't even get onto the Bass VI (unusual for me.. ) with all the existential questions; is it a bass? Is it a guitar? Is it neither, or both? Do I even exist?

To go back on topic, I'm a bit surprised IK didn't include one, or at least allow tuning from E to E on the models, but as above, maybe it sits in the long fabled, 'Modo Guitar' camp..

I really want a Fender VI in MODO BASS, too.
It's weird how the 6 string basses have to be tuned to drop B-E-A-D-G-C and can't have E-A-D-G-B-E, or up a 5th to B-E-A-D-F#-B standard baritone tuning instead.

Very limited mind set on the part of IK. Especially since the latter two tunings predate drop B tuning by several decades.

[benjamind]

..and I didn't even get onto the Bass VI (unusual for me.. ) with all the existential questions; is it a bass? Is it a guitar? Is it neither, or both? Do I even exist?

To go back on topic, I'm a bit surprised IK didn't include one, or at least allow tuning from E to E on the models, but as above, maybe it sits in the long fabled, 'Modo Guitar' camp..

I really want a Fender VI in MODO BASS, too.
It's weird how the 6 string basses have to be tuned to drop B-E-A-D-G-C and can't have E-A-D-G-B-E, or up a 5th to B-E-A-D-F#-B standard baritone tuning instead.

Very limited mind set on the part of IK. Especially since the latter two tunings predate drop B tuning by several decades.

Limited mindset indeed. To be realistic, I can't see this ever changing.

Maybe there not doing it because they working on MODO GUITAR and the standard six string tuning is reserved for that product. And then they add it to the basses once they were done the guitars.

Ooooh nooo, I've falled into my fantasy wishful thinking mindset again. Better slap myself in the face real hard and get myself back to reality LOL WTF!

[benjamind]

Christopher Booker described wishful thinking in terms of

"the fantasy cycle" ... a pattern that recurs in personal lives, in politics, in history—and in storytelling. When we embark on a course of action which is unconsciously driven by wishful thinking, all may seem to go well for a time, in what may be called the "dream stage". But because this make-believe can never be reconciled with reality, it leads to a "frustration stage" as things start to go wrong, prompting a more determined effort to keep the fantasy in being. As reality presses in, it leads to a "nightmare stage" as everything goes wrong, culminating in an "explosion into reality", when the fantasy finally falls apart.

"First, at the lowest stage of cognitive processing, individuals selectively attend to cues. Individuals can attend to evidence that supports their desires and neglect contradictory evidence."

Sounds like me, amirite?

[benjamind]

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