Hello,
I have logic pro x (but not the latest version with Dolby atmos, I still use the 10.4.4 because I am on Mac high sierra) and noticed the Binaural pan, do some of you use it?
I am a bit confused by it because I do not know then if we still need reverb? since Binaural is supposed to give the illusion of an environnement and spatialization, isn't it what Reverb also do?
Also what is difference with Binaural and Dolby atmos mixing?
Reverb VS Binaural pan
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- KVRer
- 7 posts since 1 Aug, 2022
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- KVRAF
- 2751 posts since 15 Apr, 2004 from Capital City, UK
These questions are probably beyond the scope of this 'Effects' forum, but I'll try to cover what you're asking.
Yes, I have used the Binaural Pan in the past, and it's _oookay_ but it only translates properly if the listener is wearing headphones. I've used better but it's a good way to discover if you can make use of it as a production tool.
Binaural Pan and Reverb are nothing to do with each other.
Binaural pan gives us the ability to position things in the virtual space around our heads. Reverbs are a set of finely tuned delays which give the impression the listener is in a space with reflections.
If you put a Binaural Panner before a Reverb, it _might_ sound like the thing going through the Binaural Panner is 'in' the Reverb space, but it also might not.
Binaural mixing is for the listener to enjoy the experience wearing headphones; Dolby Atmos mixing is a way to position elements in a 3-dimensional space (heard through the very carefully configured speaker system) for enjoying in, for example, a real cinema or listening room. These mixes can be translated through a binaural system, so they can be heard in headphones. This is useful for building or testing Atmos mix choices without needing a speaker system with which to audition your ideas.
Yes, I have used the Binaural Pan in the past, and it's _oookay_ but it only translates properly if the listener is wearing headphones. I've used better but it's a good way to discover if you can make use of it as a production tool.
Binaural Pan and Reverb are nothing to do with each other.
Binaural pan gives us the ability to position things in the virtual space around our heads. Reverbs are a set of finely tuned delays which give the impression the listener is in a space with reflections.
If you put a Binaural Panner before a Reverb, it _might_ sound like the thing going through the Binaural Panner is 'in' the Reverb space, but it also might not.
Binaural mixing is for the listener to enjoy the experience wearing headphones; Dolby Atmos mixing is a way to position elements in a 3-dimensional space (heard through the very carefully configured speaker system) for enjoying in, for example, a real cinema or listening room. These mixes can be translated through a binaural system, so they can be heard in headphones. This is useful for building or testing Atmos mix choices without needing a speaker system with which to audition your ideas.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 7 posts since 1 Aug, 2022
Thanks for the reply....
So if I understand right, the Binaural pan function from Logic can only be listenable on headphone but does not retranscribe through speakers (even with Crosstalking cancelation?) and Dolby atmos are binaural sounds that can be listenable to speakers, surround systems but also on headphones?
So if I understand right, the Binaural pan function from Logic can only be listenable on headphone but does not retranscribe through speakers (even with Crosstalking cancelation?) and Dolby atmos are binaural sounds that can be listenable to speakers, surround systems but also on headphones?