One of these is going to save some cherished plugins, being able to load older VST2.4 into VST3 only Cubase (when it happens on windows) will allow me to keep using some older discontinued gems .
Question is , which one should I go for?
I will use it I the effects chain just to load the plugins I won't be able to (I assume they don't work for instruments ? )
Bluecat Patchwork or DDMF Metaplugin
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- addled muppet weed
- 111324 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
bidule is an option too and will work with synths 
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- KVRAF
- 2052 posts since 13 May, 2004 from Germany
Patchwork works with synths as well.
I am a happy patchwork user.
Can't compare though.
I am a happy patchwork user.
Can't compare though.
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- addled muppet weed
- 111324 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
ah cool, i should have said, im not sure if the others can, no experience with them.rasmusklump wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 3:10 pm Patchwork works with synths as well.
I am a happy patchwork user.
Can't compare though.
but it sounds to me like you may as well just see if one works on your system, then that's your choice.
they will all do the simple task of chaining plug ins, and it's only more advanced host stuff where they may differ, on board sequencers and such?
but if you are using cubarse for all of these, then probably irrelevant.
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- KVRAF
- 5085 posts since 27 Jul, 2004
I just demoed the Metaplugin and it was buggy as hell 2-3 years ago... I tried to get some support but no reply...
Then my interest in DDMF stuff was gone ...I was healed...
Then my interest in DDMF stuff was gone
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- KVRAF
- 4803 posts since 25 Mar, 2016 from Seattle
Metaplugin works with synths too, and the oversampling is great.
That said, I never use it and I’ll happily sell my license if anyone makes me a sensible offer
That said, I never use it and I’ll happily sell my license if anyone makes me a sensible offer
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- Banned
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- 4491 posts since 8 Jul, 2008 from UK
I didn't like the GUI of Bidule if I am honest.
Preferred Metaplugin's GUI.
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DDMF always been pretty on the ball with bugs tbh. I've owned their stuff for years.Trancit wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 3:41 pm I just demoed the Metaplugin and it was buggy as hell 2-3 years ago... I tried to get some support but no reply...
Then my interest in DDMF stuff was gone
You said you demo'd it, is it better ?
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- addled muppet weed
- 111324 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
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- KVRAF
- 2052 posts since 13 May, 2004 from Germany
The gui and handling of patchwork is very user-friendly btw.
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tbh Metaplugin is very similar and cheaper than bidule, and they are both cheaper than Bluecat.
So unless they are both doing something metaplugin doesn't, which is why I asked, tbh I can't see any reason to get anything else than metaplugin.
Don't trust those with words of weakness, they are the most aggressive
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- KVRian
- 575 posts since 30 Jan, 2021
What I'd like to see in the future from Blue Cat, Bidule or DDMF is an automatable XY Pad that can be used with effects or synths. So far, only Bitwig has this capability, but setting up XY parameters to create a simple circular path in the pad using 2 LFO's is an exhausting chore.
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- KVRist
- 377 posts since 17 Mar, 2010
I used them both (each supports effects and synths). For me, Patchwork is good for structured configurations I want to re-use over and over. Easy to setup useful arrangements and works well. Only down-side is preset loading with some plugins, can be a bit cumbersome -- but not a show-stopper. MetaPlugin is great for creative, free-form stuff and is easy to load/edit. Stable running here - no defect related issues. DDMF's Superplugin is more like Patchwork -- very quick and easy to load up. With Suerplugin, I had a couple feature ideas the developer implement within a few weeks (was amazed he listened and made the changes - really impressive). Both Patchwork and Metaplugin/Superplugin are worthwhile to have in your toolbox - just depends on the approach you prefer in terms of arranging collections of effects/synths. I like and use them both.
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- 2524 posts since 4 Jul, 2019
Nugen SigMod is another to look at https://nugenaudio.com/sigmod/
Can go on sale, I got it for $29 but I may have seen it even cheaper at times
Can go on sale, I got it for $29 but I may have seen it even cheaper at times
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- 4491 posts since 8 Jul, 2008 from UK
I demo'd meta and superplugin, and found a bug in each, the focus of the opened plugin can override the DAW windows.
I had open Camelcrusher then closed Cubase, and the Save now window opened under the ccrusher window and I couldn't move it. So that would have to be resolved.
Patchwork is fine, but well overpriced for what it is.
I really hope a dev makes a bridge for VST2.4 into VST3 so Cubase will pick it up , would sort that all out.
I had open Camelcrusher then closed Cubase, and the Save now window opened under the ccrusher window and I couldn't move it. So that would have to be resolved.
Patchwork is fine, but well overpriced for what it is.
I really hope a dev makes a bridge for VST2.4 into VST3 so Cubase will pick it up , would sort that all out.
Don't trust those with words of weakness, they are the most aggressive