Early Midiverb emulations?

[beely]

Already supports M1 Mac and PC's and seems to do all the MIDIVerb stuff with, what I think is the original MIDIVerb mode (Machine 1) and then the MIDIVerb 3 mode (Machine 2).

Out of interest, what makes you think machine 2 is a MIDIverb III?

The blurb says:

"Machine 2 is a simulation of the second-generation, full-rack size digital reverberator."

Given the machine one is the first generation MIDIVERB, surely that suggests that the "second-generation" machine 2 is the MIDIVERB II..?

(The MIDIVERB II is generally the one that's most well-regarded these days...)

I haven't checked the preset lists from the original units, but it should be easy enough to check...

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

Already supports M1 Mac and PC's and seems to do all the MIDIVerb stuff with, what I think is the original MIDIVerb mode (Machine 1) and then the MIDIVerb 3 mode (Machine 2).

Out of interest, what makes you think machine 2 is a MIDIverb III?

The blurb says:

"Machine 2 is a simulation of the second-generation, full-rack size digital reverberator."

Given the machine one is the first generation MIDIVERB, surely that suggests that the "second-generation" machine 2 is the MIDIVERB II..?

(The MIDIVERB II is generally the one that's most well-regarded these days...)

I haven't checked the preset lists from the original units, but it should be easy enough to check...

Typo. Will fix.

[Septic Underground]

Its the microverb and midiverb that are in the Korneff one,
Machine 1 is a simulation of a very popular 16 bit, 1/3 rack size digital reverberator that was introduced in 1986. Although it has a limited amount of sounds, they are carefully designed and sound great. You still see this unit in guitar racks and studios all over the world.

[Septic Underground]

Machine 2 is a simulation of the second-generation, full-rack size digital reverberator. This unit has lots of presets, lots of useful sounds, and some one-off special effects which can only be found on this particular unit.
MIDIVERB 2

[beely]

Its the microverb and midiverb that are in the Korneff one

Thanks for the clarification - yes, I thought from looking at it previously that one of the machines was a Microverb, not the MIDIVERB 1, but I sortof skipped over that part this time...

It's impulses though, so I'm happy enough with impulse responses in my converb of choice if I want to play with those things...

[biscuitdough]

They had so many versions.

Did the Quadraverb have different algorithms from the Midiverb of the same era, or was multi-effects the only major difference?

Were the XT and XT:C noticeably different from the Midiverb?

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

Its the microverb and midiverb that are in the Korneff one

Thanks for the clarification - yes, I thought from looking at it previously that one of the machines was a Microverb, not the MIDIVERB 1, but I sortof skipped over that part this time...

It's impulses though, so I'm happy enough with impulse responses in my converb of choice if I want to play with those things...

The Korneff one is impulse based? I don't think it matters in this case, but just curious.

[beely]

Did the Quadraverb have different algorithms from the Midiverb of the same era, or was multi-effects the only major difference?

Were the XT and XT:C noticeably different from the Midiverb?

There's a really awesome vintage music magazine website where you can read the original magazine reviews of all this stuff, just in case you didn't know..!

The Korneff one is impulse based?

Pretty sure, yes.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

The Korneff one is impulse based?

Pretty sure, yes.

I was asking because of the HF damping control. I guess you can fake that by having a crossover then shortening the envelope of the high end of the impulse, but I figured it would be a lot easier to do within the reverb structure itself.

Anyway, I dig it.

I had an old Quadraverb GT (still do - no idea where the power adapter is) but never touched a MICRO/MIDIVERB. I hear it was popular with the Warp Records acts like Aphex Twin, but honestly never listen to any of that stuff.

[biscuitdough]

Did the Quadraverb have different algorithms from the Midiverb of the same era, or was multi-effects the only major difference?

Were the XT and XT:C noticeably different from the Midiverb?

There's a really awesome vintage music magazine website where you can read the original magazine reviews of all this stuff, just in case you didn't know..!

mu:zines is really awesome. I was hoping for a current perspective though. Like a breakdown of which ones readily duplicate each other and which don't.

[beely]

mu:zines is really awesome.

I was hoping for a current perspective though. Like a breakdown of which ones readily duplicate each other and which don't.

Gotcha. Honestly, the best info I've seen on the reality of what's going on with these things is that thread on GS where acreil is reverse-engineering the algorithms - fascinating stuff.

Without access to the boxes (although they are relatively cheap to get), the best I could do is spend a little time with impulses of each and see what you can determine from the overall character from those. I did dig out my old SPX50D a few months back to see how it's reverb held up today and it really wasn't great. It's amazing that some of these very inexpensively made boxes can hold up at all with the processing power they had...