Hey IK, When You Finally Do MODO Guitar...

[benjamind]

Point taken. I guess I'll keep on waiting. However long that takes.

Maybe it is coming out soon because I was just so close to giving up altogether.

[pdxindy]

But honestly why?

because not everyone knows how to play guitar, or has guitarist friends, or has funds for a good session player?

It will take more time and skill to learn to fake a guitar than it would to learn the guitar itself...

[pdxindy]

What never sounds like a guitar is the playing of it.

Geez... what is it with KVR and hyperbole?

I'm usually the one saying guitar VIs are never as good as the real thing, but that seems to be an insanely moderate position here. Unless a guitar VI NEVER sounds like a guitar because the playing is ALWAYS robotic and hopeless, you're in denial. It seems.

Here... let's see anyone play like this on a keyboard...

[pekbro]

Man her fingernails look a bit long, I wonder how she can even do that. Just one of the hurdles for women guitarists I guess.

[benjamind]

Who cares if it's not entirely possible to reproduce an exact guitar part on a keyboard in real time though?

Sample library developers like OTS and ISW would like to have a word with you and yes barre chords can be done but you need to do a few tricks.

As long as you can edit it in MIDI sequencing after or at least change the playing algorithm it should be possible for the most part.

I agree that playing it on a real axe is unbeatable for authenticity but physical modeling is the next best thing, and then after that we have sample based solutions which work very well but lack some flexibility and realism in the interaction of strings and the fretboard/body/pickups that can be done better with modeling - provided the modeling is realistic and I have no trouble believing that IK can do it after they managed to pull off MODO BASS!!!

[pdxindy]

Who cares if it's not entirely possible to reproduce an exact guitar part on a keyboard in real time though?

Sample library developers like OTS and ISW would like to have a word with you and yes barre chords can be done but you need to do a few tricks.

As long as you can edit it in MIDI sequencing after or at least change the playing algorithm it should be possible for the most part.

I care. But hey, not everyone needs to.

For me, the beauty of the guitar is how expressive it is, especially electric guitar! What an amazing range of mood and feeling, rhythm and groove skilled guitarists can create.

Assembling midi parts at best will make a relatively accurate but lifeless copy. It will never sound like this:

[jamcat]

She's not playing that live. She's miming for the camera. Should be obvious enough.

[jamcat]

Personally, I would never use something like MODO GUITAR or MODO BASS for a final take. My interest in either is purely for writing, auditioning, documenting, learning to play songs, and creating mockups and scratch tracks.

So for me, they just need to be "good enough."

[pekbro]

[benjamind]

I see, you're a guitarist?

[pekbro]

I see, you're a guitarist?

I play both the guitar and keyboards actually. Anyway, not rolling my eyes at you or this thread,
just some snarky comments here and there.

[SeeingInMidi]

I've been using NI guitar libraries that make it to the final mix, never had a single complaint from a client. Same applies to the larger Kontakt string and orchestra libraries.. It really depends on how well you can program. Hans Zimmer is an example of an excellent programmer, but nowadays, he's usually given the budget to hire actual players.

But I've also seen some live uncanny realism playing with the seaboard, but the player was beyond amazing to begin with.

[donkey tugger]

Hans Zimmer is an example of an excellent programmer, but nowadays, he's usually given the budget to hire actual players.

Not sure if you meant strings, or guitar? Zimmer is a pretty good guitarist...



...but if you can get Johnny Marr in...well why not.

[SeeingInMidi]

Hans Zimmer is an example of an excellent programmer, but nowadays, he's usually given the budget to hire actual players.

Not sure if you meant strings, or guitar? Zimmer is a pretty good guitarist...



...but if you can get Johnny Marr in...well why not.

In his masterclass, he explains how he doesn't see himself as a great live musician. Rather, he explains that he's always been a master at programming midi.

[donkey tugger]

Hans Zimmer is an example of an excellent programmer, but nowadays, he's usually given the budget to hire actual players.

Not sure if you meant strings, or guitar? Zimmer is a pretty good guitarist...



...but if you can get Johnny Marr in...well why not.

In his masterclass, he explains how he doesn't see himself as a great live musician. Rather, he explains that he's always been a master at programming midi.

Well he seems to be playing the guitar there...