Reason 12 is here

[sQeetz]

P.S. But I agree with few others, Reason would be a bit better if it was more like Ableton, and had the rack down below somehow, instead of seperate window which you have to scroll scroll and scroll to find what you need. I was of different opinion 5 years ago though. I thought having a seperate rack for instruments was more useful until I started using multiple effects and tracks in my music.

What I do to reduce clutter, is to put all FX for one channel inside the insert FX slot in the mix channel. You can easily collapse that and only have the instruments (plus their mix channel, of course) visible.
Always thought that was the way the rack was intended to be used anyway....

[Propellerhands]

P.S. But I agree with few others, Reason would be a bit better if it was more like Ableton, and had the rack down below somehow, instead of seperate window which you have to scroll scroll and scroll to find what you need. I was of different opinion 5 years ago though. I thought having a seperate rack for instruments was more useful until I started using multiple effects and tracks in my music.

What I do to reduce clutter, is to put all FX for one channel inside the insert FX slot in the mix channel. You can easily collapse that and only have the instruments (plus their mix channel, of course) visible.
Always thought that was the way the rack was intended to be used anyway....

I may be ******** then. Since I used to work with very old version of Reason, now that I own 12, I may not know all tips and tricks of the DAW. Meaning, I was not sure how routing works inside mix channel. Usually I create a combinator, add portable 14:2 mixer and then add plugins, synths and fx bellow. Because sometimes I want to combine two synths into one, like for pads or even bass sounds, to make them punchier. Makes sense? Or is there easier/smarter way?

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your post was redacted, the word you used is extremely offensive to many and we wont allow it here, please do use it again, ty.

[sQeetz]

I may be ******** then. Since I used to work with very old version of Reason, now that I own 12, I may not know all tips and tricks of the DAW. Meaning, I was not sure how routing works inside mix channel. Usually I create a combinator, add portable 14:2 mixer and then add plugins, synths and fx bellow. Because sometimes I want to combine two synths into one, like for pads or even bass sounds, to make them punchier. Makes sense? Or is there easier/smarter way?

The way I do it, is to use a combinator to combine just the synths and put all FX in the Mix Channel's Insert FX slot. The combinator mixes both synths together fine and all instruments have level control anyway.

Now if you insist on using a mixer, you can just unplug the synths from the combinator and plug them into the 14:2 mixer you have in the Mix Channel's insert FX slot. Now you plug the 14:2 output to the Mix Channel's input. The insert FX can still be placed below the mixer and there you can place anything you want.
When loading new stuff in the rack I always SHIFT-drag stuff in, so nothing gets automatically plugged.
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[Propellerhands]

I may be ******** then. Since I used to work with very old version of Reason, now that I own 12, I may not know all tips and tricks of the DAW. Meaning, I was not sure how routing works inside mix channel. Usually I create a combinator, add portable 14:2 mixer and then add plugins, synths and fx bellow. Because sometimes I want to combine two synths into one, like for pads or even bass sounds, to make them punchier. Makes sense? Or is there easier/smarter way?

The way I do it, is to use a combinator to combine just the synths and put all FX in the Mix Channel's Insert FX slot. The combinator mixes both synths together fine and all instruments have level control anyway.

Now if you insist on using a mixer, you can just unplug the synths from the combinator and plug them into the 14:2 mixer you have in the Mix Channel's insert FX slot. Now you plug the 14:2 output to the Mix Channel's input. The insert FX can still be placed below the mixer and there you can place anything you want.
When loading new stuff in the rack I always SHIFT-drag stuff in, so nothing gets automatically plugged.

Great, thank you! But what if I want to use different FX for different synths inside a combinator? For example, making a pad sound from subtractor and malstrom, but using reverb for subtractor and unison for malstrom. Of course I could use those FX as SEND inside 14:2 mixer, but I rarely utilize this function. Is there another way? Because you already gave me some good ideas, never thought about using 14:2 as insert FX.

[Propellerhands]

your post was redacted, the word you used is extremely offensive to many and we wont allow it here, please do use it again, ty.

Ah, had no idea, thanks! Will watch my language.

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ty

[sQeetz]

Great, thank you! But what if I want to use different FX for different synths inside a combinator? For example, making a pad sound from subtractor and malstrom, but using reverb for subtractor and unison for malstrom. Of course I could use those FX as SEND inside 14:2 mixer, but I rarely utilize this function. Is there another way? Because you already gave me some good ideas, never thought about using 14:2 as insert FX.

You just plug the instrument into the FX before plugging it to the mixer, creating an insert of its own.
In the pic below I used a line mixer, because if you just want to level stuff without using the sends, then the 14:2 is overkill anyway....
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[sQeetz]

Anyway, that's the way *I* like to route things. As you can see from the screenshot above, Reason itself thinks that's a non-standard-routing. I'm fine with it, though... I know my way around it
And simply just loading one instrument or one combinator with more instruments and all corresponding FX into the Mix Channel's Insert won't trigger that warning

[EnGee]

Anyway, that's the way *I* like to route things. As you can see from the screenshot above, Reason itself thinks that's a non-standard-routing. I'm fine with it, though... I know my way around it
And simply just loading one instrument or one combinator with more instruments and all corresponding FX into the Mix Channel's Insert won't trigger that warning

Are you using Reason under Rosetta? Monterey? I have also M1 and thought to wait till there is a native app, but I might install it if it runs well under Rosetta!

[sQeetz]

Are you using Reason under Rosetta? Monterey? I have also M1 and thought to wait till there is a native app, but I might install it if it runs well under Rosetta!

I have Monterey 12.5.1 and it runs pretty solid, actually.
The issues the RRP had a while ago were ironed out.
Still can't wait for native, though
Install away

[EnGee]

Are you using Reason under Rosetta? Monterey? I have also M1 and thought to wait till there is a native app, but I might install it if it runs well under Rosetta!

I have Monterey 12.5.1 and it runs pretty solid, actually.
The issues the RRP had a while ago were ironed out.
Still can't wait for native, though
Install away

Great! Thank you I will now

[sQeetz]

One must know that my mild case of OCD leads me to not like using Reason at all. It can get messy real fast by definition. It's unavoidable.

[Propellerhands]

Anyway, that's the way *I* like to route things. As you can see from the screenshot above, Reason itself thinks that's a non-standard-routing. I'm fine with it, though... I know my way around it
And simply just loading one instrument or one combinator with more instruments and all corresponding FX into the Mix Channel's Insert won't trigger that warning

Only now noticed. Funny, why does that triangle lights up though? Does it mean you have something redundant or something that "shouldn't work", and only then gives a warning? Or is it just Propellerheads not liking that people mess with their software? srs

One must know that my mild case of OCD leads me to not like using Reason at all. It can get messy real fast by definition. It's unavoidable.

Over the years my own OCD went ballistic and I was starting to look at other DAWs with less cables. Especially when I reach my usually 7 tracks per song limit or want to rearrange some mix channels, move effects or forget to use a combinator (because temporary track became permanent and I want all things look nice and tidy) and now have to re-route everything by hand. And then 9 times out of 10, the direct copy does not sound exactly like un-combined version and spend 2 hours trying to figure out why.

[EnochLight]

Heaven forbid one steps into an actual professional recording studio. Talk about a mess of clutter…

Eh, for me - I can get just as annoyed in virtually any and all DAW. Reason is not unique in that, IMHO.