Motorola DSP563xx Emulator (BETA) (Access Virus, Nord Lead, Waldorf MW...)

[Mogular]

I have been playing with this past few days after realising there has been a more recent update in the last couple of months. On my Mac studio with an M1 Max I am finally getting usable performance. I have found that using the multi output version in Logic is the most CPU efficient (as opposed to using a separate instance of the plug-in for each sound).
I have been setting up a multi in a single instance of the plug-in, using three slots on each multi which I can then assign the output of each slot to one of the three virtual outputs.
There's no doubt about it, the CPU usage is very high compared to plug-ins that have been optimised for Apple silicon, by an order of magnitude of about 10 times (this is a rough estimate only), but it is the sound of a Virus inside the box, and what a wonderful sound it is!
There are still performance issues however. It takes a really long time to instantiate each new plug-in instance. Also deleting instances takes a long time, as does adding other plug-ins into the session.
I'm not sure if this is the fault of the plug-in though, as I have experienced other strange plugin loading behaviour within logic on the M1 that I haven't been able to properly understand.

[VELLTONE MUSIC]

nevermind

[Chris-S]

Interesting read about the (non)-future of the hardware-virus:

https://synthmorph.com/blogs/news/acces ... -virus-ti3

So, I'm glad emus like the DSP563 exist to keep this stuff alive.

[VELLTONE MUSIC]

nevermind

[chk071]

Interesting read about the (non)-future of the hardware-virus:

https://synthmorph.com/blogs/news/acces ... -virus-ti3

So, I'm glad emus like the DSP563 exist to keep this stuff alive.

VA seems to be completely dead in hardware. At least compared to some time ago.

[VELLTONE MUSIC]

Interesting read about the (non)-future of the hardware-virus:

https://synthmorph.com/blogs/news/acces ... -virus-ti3

So, I'm glad emus like the DSP563 exist to keep this stuff alive.

VA seems to be completely dead in hardware. At least compared to some time ago.

VA seems more like marketing to me, not so really unbelievable thing - analogish dynamic and flavour is useful,but this entire faltering to the past based on nostalgia definitely is marketing, target are willing to pay 100+ euro gentlemens

[chk071]

I was a bit unspecific there. What I mean was those rather elaborate VA's like the Virus, JP-8000, Nord Lead etc. This domain seems to be rather dead compared to 15 to 20 years ago. Not that I wouldn't understand that, with the quality of some of today's soft synths, and the obvious advantages of in the box.

[SLiC]

I was a bit unspecific there. What I mean was those rather elaborate VA's like the Virus, JP-8000, Nord Lead etc. This domain seems to be rather dead compared to 15 to 20 years ago. Not that I wouldn't understand that, with the quality of some of today's soft synths, and the obvious advantages of in the box.

Maybe a few, VAs Modal Cobalt, Roland System 8 and of course Nord still sell the lead and various other VA's, but the trend has definitely been to go 'real analogue (DM12 made it as cheap as VA) or go more complex with wavetables (such as the Hydrasynth etc) and still have very good VA filters.

[chk071]

Yep.

[mothra]

I was a bit unspecific there. What I mean was those rather elaborate VA's like the Virus, JP-8000, Nord Lead etc. This domain seems to be rather dead compared to 15 to 20 years ago. Not that I wouldn't understand that, with the quality of some of today's soft synths, and the obvious advantages of in the box.

Well nowadays you can cover the same stuff with a computer so why bother with the R&D for all the components and assembling hardware, when you can just use the same code and port it to Windows or MacOS and not have to worry about any overhead aside from the programmers? In 1999 when the Nord and Virus and Q and JP8000 were the cream of the crop, our PC's (and/or the developers) weren't quite up to the task at the time but look at how far the whole VA thing has come since then..

[SLiC]

I was a bit unspecific there. What I mean was those rather elaborate VA's like the Virus, JP-8000, Nord Lead etc. This domain seems to be rather dead compared to 15 to 20 years ago. Not that I wouldn't understand that, with the quality of some of today's soft synths, and the obvious advantages of in the box.

Well nowadays you can cover the same stuff with a computer so why bother with the R&D for all the components and assembling hardware, when you can just use the same code and port it to Windows or MacOS and not have to worry about any overhead aside from the programmers? In 1999 when the Nord and Virus and Q and JP8000 were the cream of the crop, our PC's (and/or the developers) weren't quite up to the task at the time but look at how far the whole VA thing has come since then..

One reason to build your DSP/code on a hardware platform was so that it couldn't be copied and distributed without buying the hardware! Not sure what chips/platform modern synths are on like the Hydrasynth or even the OP-1, but if its all digital I assume it could be emulated somehow?

[VELLTONE MUSIC]

nevermind

[VELLTONE MUSIC]

"Read about 'Are friends electric' preset in a article in a www famous magazine, so if they fool people is their problem not mine,but definitionally do not accept somebody to call me a fool for sharing this"

A very lazy, cheap cop out to blame someone else for your error.
I doubt the "famous magazine" would make such a mistake, so please, link to your source - or at least post the name of the magazine.

It's more likely you just made it up to support your failed opinion on sound ware copyright.
To think there aren't people reading who are more knowledgeable is thinking.

Or more likely you aren't normal enough to assume that i am not gonna search an article i read years ago in a magazine i don't remember exactly,bad memory maybe,but anyway it's absolutely shocking how people with mental issues gain popularity here,can you prove you don't have such mental issues,cause reading your world conspiracy theory or assuming whatever your sick brain sell could assume in any direction...hahahaha the sick way you accuse,assume and put your sick logic here prove my point that you are sich,can you prove the opposite - did the aliens make you assuming all these nonsense,did they make you write here hahaha ?

[Aliens]

Or more likely you aren't smart enough to assume that i am not gonna search an article i read years ago in a magazine i don't remember exactly,bad memory maybe,but anyway it's absolutely shocking how people with mental issues gain popularity here,can you prove you don't have such?

Still? Even though you were proved absolutely wrong, even though it was a 'famous' magazine you now somehow forget, even after hiding behind the iron curtain as an excuse for your creep show, and even as you weakly infer "mental issues" on others as a way of apportioning blame over your amusing, self inflicted error

Like your soundware, I doubt people will be buying it.
Cheers.

[AdvancedFollower]

I was a bit unspecific there. What I mean was those rather elaborate VA's like the Virus, JP-8000, Nord Lead etc. This domain seems to be rather dead compared to 15 to 20 years ago. Not that I wouldn't understand that, with the quality of some of today's soft synths, and the obvious advantages of in the box.

Well nowadays you can cover the same stuff with a computer so why bother with the R&D for all the components and assembling hardware, when you can just use the same code and port it to Windows or MacOS and not have to worry about any overhead aside from the programmers? In 1999 when the Nord and Virus and Q and JP8000 were the cream of the crop, our PC's (and/or the developers) weren't quite up to the task at the time but look at how far the whole VA thing has come since then..

True in the past, computers didn't have the computing power to run the VA code natively (while simultaneously running a full DAW), so being able to use the hardware VA synth as a glorified DSP card to offload processing was actually a selling point. These days it just adds needless complexity. The Virus code ported to optimized ARM/x64 (as opposed to running under emulation) would barely make a dent in the CPU usage of a modern computer.

I think Roland have the right idea with their Plugout/ZEN-core concept. When you want to run their sound engines in a DAW on a computer, you just run a plugin natively on the CPU. No need for "Total Integration" with all the specialized drivers, USB issues etc. You just use the hardware as a MIDI controller for the plugin. Or if you don't have the hardware, you can use any old MIDI controller. When you want to take your sound on the road for a live performance using real hardware synths, you can load the exact same sound onto your compatible Roland hardware synth. It sounds exactly the same since it's running the same code as the plugin.