Relab LX480L essential - my latest reverb addiction

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savantaudio wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 5:45 pm We stand by our original claim that the Quantum 2772 Evolution will null (to -75-80dB) with the core algorithm of the 90s hardware that inspired it. Our comments were taken out of context by some, so clarification was provided on our website.
The plugin has redesigned the hi-cut EQ filters to be more like the original 80s hardware, so any null tests performed using presets that require those filters will not null as deeply with the 90s hardware, which we explained in detail on our website.
The hardware has gone through many iterations over the years, and the main thing that changes from generation to generation is the filters, which are not considered part of the core algorithm.
We still welcome any null tests with the original hardware. Of course, they must be set up with very precise sample/latency offset matching. And we are happy to talk in more detail about the differences in filter design, and why we made the choices we did.
You can stay after whatever you want this is not the problem. The problem was that you initially made a claim but when called on it you started to marginalize and smudge waters.

The way you say it it sounds as if almost every hardware QRS user out there has a unit that sounds vastly different than the other one. Like it is some kind of aging analog dinosaur made of components that degrade over time (aging effect) thus - someone else reverb may sound vastly different than the emulation you worked on yours. Nonsense.

And now it's about precise sample latency, offset, and all that like it's some exclusive deeper knowledge people don't know how to address (this is not the case). But this is not the problem. The problem is not complete null or all or something like that.

The problem is that you are calling a shot of "complete null" which connects or assumes your emulation as a perfect bit for bit development achievement - which would be awesome if true of course, but people reported to you that the presets on hardware and your software are NOT sounding the same, even with they effort of tweaking your plugin they can not achieve same sound, therefore, they don't even try to do a null test.

And then you post one or two presets and that is fine but people called you on different presets not sounding as on their own unit.

Look it's simple. You release a plugin and call it "same as hardware" or whatever blurb you make. People compare it and they can't same sound. By your logic they need some sort of deeper experience and whatever to obtain it. Therefore it's a miss. I am not saying your product is bad. People like it. I am saying it's unfair to call connect it to the sound of QRS unit while people can not get the same sound on their own hardware model that you apparantly used to model your product.

Whatever, I've seen Gearspace discussion and what parody it becomes when "I don't have the hardware but the plugin sounds good to me" people started to make their own parade.

By that logic, I could put the latest model Volvo sticker on my old Skoda and sell it as Volvo. It does not work like that.

Enjoy.

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It's kind of weird how this Relab Development thread has been hijacked by discussion of the accuracy or lack thereof of Savant Audio Labs' Quantec emulation, when Relab has a QRS emulation in development, which we know is going to be >99.998% accurate.

The only question is of course, when (or if) Relab will ever actually get it released.
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jamcat wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 5:21 am It's kind of weird how this Relab Development thread has been hijacked by discussion of the accuracy or lack thereof of Savant Audio Labs' Quantec emulation, when Relab has a QRS emulation in development, which we know is going to be >99.998% accurate.

The only question is of course, when (or if) Relab will ever actually get it released.
Relab is (or was) doing an emulation of the original QRS, where Savant Audio did the 2402 Yardstick. Not exactly the same.
Yorgos Simeonidis

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jamcat wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 5:21 am It's kind of weird how this Relab Development thread has been hijacked by discussion of the accuracy or lack thereof of Savant Audio Labs' Quantec emulation, when Relab has a QRS emulation in development, which we know is going to be >99.998% accurate.

The only question is of course, when (or if) Relab will ever actually get it released.
Yes, we have redirected our response to the appropriate thread...
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Thanks!
Hans from Savant Audio
www.savantaudiolabs.com

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LX480 4.0 is now in public beta.
VST3 and M1 native!

It's available to all Relab Community members.
https://community.relabdevelopment.com/become-a-member/

They also have this, regarding the VSR REV6000:
https://new.relabdevelopment.com/

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It lives!

Then we will just need the QRS, 224XL, and RMX16...
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jamcat wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:45 pm LX480 4.0 is now in public beta.
VST3 and M1 native!

It's available to all Relab Community members.
https://community.relabdevelopment.com/become-a-member/

They also have this, regarding the VSR REV6000:
https://new.relabdevelopment.com/

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It lives!

Then we will just need the QRS, 224XL, and RMX16...
i‘m not part, of the relab development community, so does this also count for LX480 Essential (what this thread is about actually)?
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audio/fault wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:47 am i‘m not part, of the relab development community, so does this also count for LX480 Essential (what this thread is about actually)?
I was wondering the same question. Is there also a public beta for the Essential version?

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Cool that it is native m1 now, but resizing doesnt work in Logic/Catalina here and I would love to have the custom LCD coloring options/dark skin back.

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The public beta of LX480 Essentials (v2.2.1) with M1/VST3 support is available to the Relab user community now.
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jamcat wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 5:07 am The public beta of LX480 Essentials (v2.2.1) with M1/VST3 support is available to the Relab user community now.
Thanks for the heads up. Maybe I'm a bit obtuse today, but I'm not able to grasp where to find the public beta downloads on that site... Are they hidden in some particular place?

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jamcat wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 5:07 am The public beta of LX480 Essentials (v2.2.1) with M1/VST3 support is available to the Relab user community now.
And the complete version?

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aMUSEd wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 11:12 am
jamcat wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 5:07 am The public beta of LX480 Essentials (v2.2.1) with M1/VST3 support is available to the Relab user community now.
And the complete version?
Was ready already two weeks ago

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Cool - Sonsig too?

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I'm definitely unable to find any traces to that public beta of LX480 Essentials v2.2.1 on the Relab Community site... :dog: Could anybody please be so kind to share a direct link? I'm very curious to give that Essentials VST3 beta a try. Thanks.

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You need to sign up for an Relab Community account if you haven’t yet. It’s different than your Relab user account. It’s a community forum. You’ll find a post from Randy in the community newsfeed with links to the betas.
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