Well I was thinking Windows users - but seriously they still want a f**king transfer fee? I think they have taken enough of my money over the yearsEchoes in the Attic wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:38 pmI'm not going to bother. Who would want to buy these now? Also, $50 transfer fee, we'd barely get anything for them.aMUSEd wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 9:52 am I'm just going to let go of mine, I have everything by 2CAudio so it's a real shame but I feel I need to move on. Problem is I'm not even sure if they are in a position to process license transfers at the moment.
Replacing 2Caudio Reverbs
- KVRAF
- 37383 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
- KVRAF
- 37383 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
I wish they would do one of those.plexuss wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:44 pmThey both need to grow up and get their sht together, as far as I am concerned. Amazing products or not. Highly unprofessional behaviour. If not they both need to sell the company to Zynaptiq and split the money and move on.Echoes in the Attic wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:38 pmI'm not going to bother. Who would want to buy these now? Also, $50 transfer fee, we'd barely get anything for them.aMUSEd wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 9:52 am I'm just going to let go of mine, I have everything by 2CAudio so it's a real shame but I feel I need to move on. Problem is I'm not even sure if they are in a position to process license transfers at the moment.
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- KVRAF
- 35671 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Seems to be a pretty one sided thing AFAIC. Only one party decided that it was a good idea to throw shit publicly.plexuss wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:44 pm They both need to grow up and get their sht together, as far as I am concerned. Amazing products or not. Highly unprofessional behaviour.
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- KVRAF
- 5201 posts since 16 Nov, 2014
Nothing can replace them but these days i am happy with the Logic intern FX (especially ChromaVerb).
In general most DAWs stock FX (and even synths) are as good or better as any third party thing you can buy.
So best for me would be if Apple bought all the 2CAudio stuff and include it in the next major update.
At least i am sure that there will be no trouble with future updates.
Beside sample libraries (and maybe 2 third party synths) there is nothing I would miss really these days.
But I must say until now all my 2CAudio plug-ins are working (more or less).
Kaleidoscope would be the most irreplaceable tool i could imagine from them.
I guess maybe it is also more profitable for developers to sell their souls to the devil (means one of these big companies).
In general most DAWs stock FX (and even synths) are as good or better as any third party thing you can buy.
So best for me would be if Apple bought all the 2CAudio stuff and include it in the next major update.
At least i am sure that there will be no trouble with future updates.
Beside sample libraries (and maybe 2 third party synths) there is nothing I would miss really these days.
But I must say until now all my 2CAudio plug-ins are working (more or less).
Kaleidoscope would be the most irreplaceable tool i could imagine from them.
I guess maybe it is also more profitable for developers to sell their souls to the devil (means one of these big companies).
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- KVRAF
- 3086 posts since 4 May, 2012
I don't think this will happen but it might require a new incarnation. Though as many have suggested, there are some serious trust issues now.LeVzi wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:39 am It would be a real shame if something as well put together as Aether went down the sh!tter tbh.
I have no idea what I would replace Breeze with but I'm also not worrying about it right now.
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- KVRAF
- 5201 posts since 16 Nov, 2014
What i really like about Breeze 2 and Precedence is the via one GUI multi-instance settings.
It seems there is nothing quite this out there.
But life goes on.....nothing to wait for.
It seems there is nothing quite this out there.
But life goes on.....nothing to wait for.
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- KVRAF
- 5201 posts since 16 Nov, 2014
And it might not be important but ChromaVerb has the best GUI for me from any reverb plug-in. At least with an M1 it's nice since my old i7 could not handle all the fancy GUI magic without frying my legs.LFO8 wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:15 pm Yep, Chromaverb as algorithmic reverb and Space Designer as IR reverb. Can’t go wring there. Logic’s FX are good.
- KVRAF
- 3303 posts since 27 Mar, 2010 from UK
Tbh I've popped on again to see if there's any updates shame theyve destroyed themselves but the plugins works as is.
Tbh as mentioned Liquidsonics are superb and the recent Tai Chi is lovely.
I'm a great biased fan of Liquids revs and the recent ducking feature is a great implementation.
Valhalla is also a great cheap option.
Tbh as mentioned Liquidsonics are superb and the recent Tai Chi is lovely.
I'm a great biased fan of Liquids revs and the recent ducking feature is a great implementation.
Valhalla is also a great cheap option.
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- KVRian
- 806 posts since 1 Sep, 2008 from US
Assuming realistic-ish space is what you're looking for, Nimbus and R4 had been good replacement for me for Aether at least. For the stupid price izotope letting them go it's hard to beat (also bit sad for all the money I gave EA before they sold to izotope, but we all knew that was coming)
Despite they're likely going to languish, I'm thankful 2C products are all just serial and normal installers. At least they can live on in my satellite machine for a long while..
Despite they're likely going to languish, I'm thankful 2C products are all just serial and normal installers. At least they can live on in my satellite machine for a long while..
- KVRAF
- 7872 posts since 21 Dec, 2002 from MD USA
yeah people always knock ilok but challenge response could be a nightmare in a situation like this.softska wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 12:47 am Assuming realistic-ish space is what you're looking for, Nimbus and R4 had been good replacement for me for Aether at least. For the stupid price izotope letting them go it's hard to beat (also bit sad for all the money I gave EA before they sold to izotope, but we all knew that was coming)
Despite they're likely going to languish, I'm thankful 2C products are all just serial and normal installers. At least they can live on in my satellite machine for a long while..
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- KVRist
- 204 posts since 14 Aug, 2008
Hello guys,
I'm surprized to see this topic resurrected again here. I thought nobody is more interested in discussing this stuff.
I have had enough of discouragement from users here - Peopl took it as that two founders could not come to an agreement.
That's not quite the case. I tried to present all the necessary info in here and other forums but almost everywhere (except kvr, maybe because they remember me from SpinAudio times) my posts where removed/banned/blocked. maybe because I'm russian?
And now what?
Mr. Souter boldly promised in march that he would support the products. Where is this support? He even did not dare
to make any clearification post, neither he let users know about the situation.
The web shop now requires some log-in. So effectively he collected as much money as he could and ran away. Very pro behavour indeed. No info from him here and in other forums.
How on earth he could have provide support if I'm the author of more than 90% of all the code and he is not a coder
and could not even compile anything without external help?
The code base is extremely complicated! I've spent 17 years of very hard coding work to develop it and yet it took
Mr. Souter a day to assign it all to him (along with my personal money).
Anyway,
I'm working on Aether 2.0 (preset-compaible with AE 1.6) which would be released under different name and under different brand. All 2CAudio users will get it for free. and yes VST3, CLAP, AUv3, M1 native-vectorized code and all the goodies.
Aether was reseacrhed and developed by me prior to 2CAudio. Other 2CAudio products contain Andrew's IP in various
proportions and thus I cannot release them. Unlike Mr. Souter I respect other people's intellectual property.
Technically I of course can support other products as well but legally I cannot.
I'm also working on open programmable modular synth that runs completely on GPU.
If anyone has suggestions about Aether 2.0 and/or ask for betatest, want to support or blame Denis feel free to email me at mdx1358[at]fastmail.com
Regards,
Denis, 2CAudio Initiator and Co-Founder
I'm surprized to see this topic resurrected again here. I thought nobody is more interested in discussing this stuff.
I have had enough of discouragement from users here - Peopl took it as that two founders could not come to an agreement.
That's not quite the case. I tried to present all the necessary info in here and other forums but almost everywhere (except kvr, maybe because they remember me from SpinAudio times) my posts where removed/banned/blocked. maybe because I'm russian?
And now what?
Mr. Souter boldly promised in march that he would support the products. Where is this support? He even did not dare
to make any clearification post, neither he let users know about the situation.
The web shop now requires some log-in. So effectively he collected as much money as he could and ran away. Very pro behavour indeed. No info from him here and in other forums.
How on earth he could have provide support if I'm the author of more than 90% of all the code and he is not a coder
and could not even compile anything without external help?
The code base is extremely complicated! I've spent 17 years of very hard coding work to develop it and yet it took
Mr. Souter a day to assign it all to him (along with my personal money).
Anyway,
I'm working on Aether 2.0 (preset-compaible with AE 1.6) which would be released under different name and under different brand. All 2CAudio users will get it for free. and yes VST3, CLAP, AUv3, M1 native-vectorized code and all the goodies.
Aether was reseacrhed and developed by me prior to 2CAudio. Other 2CAudio products contain Andrew's IP in various
proportions and thus I cannot release them. Unlike Mr. Souter I respect other people's intellectual property.
Technically I of course can support other products as well but legally I cannot.
I'm also working on open programmable modular synth that runs completely on GPU.
If anyone has suggestions about Aether 2.0 and/or ask for betatest, want to support or blame Denis feel free to email me at mdx1358[at]fastmail.com
Regards,
Denis, 2CAudio Initiator and Co-Founder
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- KVRist
- 204 posts since 14 Aug, 2008
>Despite they're likely going to languish, I'm thankful 2C products are all just serial and normal installers. At least they can live on in my satellite machine for a long while..
I intentionally made it this way because I already had a situation like this in the past with SpinAudio. SpinAudio users were able to use products after the company demise.
Denis,
SpinAudio and 2CAudio Co-Founder
I intentionally made it this way because I already had a situation like this in the past with SpinAudio. SpinAudio users were able to use products after the company demise.
Denis,
SpinAudio and 2CAudio Co-Founder

