NI Komplete 14

[Tobi MM]

So, there's a timeline for M1; officially mentioned by NI under the announcement Video and...

https://community.native-instruments.co ... ment_30577

Reaktor and Battery 4 M1 ready in 2023.

Traktor not even mentioned.

Effects and Massive (what matters to me) hopefully in Q4/22...

M2 - Compatibilty officially inexistent.

https://support.native-instruments.com/ ... 1660438347


Upgrade at the next summer sale, Battery 5 somewhere in between, if ever.

NI as we knew it is dead long ago. But at this point, please give me a bundle for the Play Series to install it at work, because they're cool for beatmaking with kids/teens. All the other things i neither want or need...

[Greenstorm33]

Komplete snooze fest for me. Guess there's no money in cool Reaktor ensembles or standalone synths anymore.

This seems clearly to be targeted at the very young ones, hobbyists, and newbies. Just look at the "Play" (!) series...

Hobbyists and people doing film scores and the like seem to be their target audience nowadays. I wonder if Massive X did so poorly that it put them off doing any more synths or refreshing their existing ones.

[ralfrobert]

This is a cash-in thing. Grandma and mum will sponsor the virtual toys which means a lot of new customers and quick money. For long time users, this is not interesting. But it works. Look at the one trick ponies made by Ujam...

[LFO8]

Native instruments is dead for synth lovers. It's all about the sampled content. A big fat lol to this release and viva la revolution to the plugin developers that are still pushing the envelope with synths!

[rod_zero]

Poor NI, it is a shadow of a former self.

That's two software companies that went down the drain in recent years, Blizzard and NI, former innovators and industry leaders were stripped of their human capital to extract profits in the short term.

[Caine123]

As i predicted quite a few years ago, based on their processes. The downfall of NI and the rise of Arturia.

Some NI fanboys were busting my balls back then: i was jealous of the leading music software company (huh??). Yeah right.

Well, here we are.

NI is sinking every year more. Seems they still got a lot of people supporting them though.

[Tobi MM]

Komplete snooze fest for me. Guess there's no money in cool Reaktor ensembles or standalone synths anymore.

This seems clearly to be targeted at the very young ones, hobbyists, and newbies. Just look at the "Play" (!) series...

Hobbyists and people doing film scores and the like seem to be their target audience nowadays. I wonder if Massive X did so poorly that it put them off doing any more synths or refreshing their existing ones.

Massive X was not that awful itself - a decent synth (and an awful preset browser)... after three or four release date delays... and if you hate or forget the original one and don't want a successor.

But the time the original hat it's victory run, there weren't either Sylenth, Serum, Pigments nor Dune. Nowadays though...

[mumpcake]

Massive X was not that awful itself - a decent synth (and an awful preset browser)... after three or four release date delays... and if you hate or forget the original one and don't want a successor.

I was never really a fan of the original but like Massive X.

[Mr.Scarbee]

Its only Scarbee Funk Guitarist. NI have clearly decided to focus on the Session Guitar, basses etc. that uses same engine. My concept with Funk Guitarist is quite different and apparently it does no longer fit in their portefolio.

We have Scarbee Sunshine Bass out before Xmas - and it has a lot of cool features.

[noiseboyuk]

Most of the “NI is dead” comments are really about synths. I suppose back in the day, Komplete was synth-and-beat-based, so fair enough. And as time has gone on, the emphasis on synths has declined greatly.

But if your needs are more towards piano, drums, bass, guitars, world instruments, they’ve gone on to do some very strong products (some less so, notably orchestral). Lots of DJ stuff as well. In other words, I think he “newbs and cinematic” tag doesn’t fit very well. “Not much synth innovation” is a better fit.

People mourn the early NI era of Abysnth, Reaktor, FM etc where they were innovators. But what they’ve grown into isn’t bad per se, it’s just different.

[vurt]

Most of the “NI is dead” comments are really about synths. I suppose back in the day, Komplete was synth-and-beat-based, so fair enough. And as time has gone on, the emphasis on synths has declined greatly.

But if your needs are more towards piano, drums, bass, guitars, world instruments, they’ve gone on to do some very strong products (some less so, notably orchestral). Lots of DJ stuff as well. In other words, I think he “newbs and cinematic” tag doesn’t fit very well. “Not much synth innovation” is a better fit.

People mourn the early NI era of Abysnth, Reaktor, FM etc where they were innovators. But what they’ve grown into isn’t bad per se, it’s just different.

yup, the new komplete doesn't interest me at all. im here for the synths, i came to ni for absynth and reaktor, that's all i care about personally.

however, all i see is a business making a choice that doesn't fit my needs, but im sure it will suit the needs of many.
and no, not just newbs and kids either,
it's not the end of ni, it's a new direction is all.

[vurt]

sorry, i meant "grrrr f**k you ni"

[Tobi MM]

Massive X was not that awful itself - a decent synth (and an awful preset browser)... after three or four release date delays... and if you hate or forget the original one and don't want a successor.

I was never really a fan of the original but like Massive X.

Same here. Original GUI ist just awful, but i'm not even 30, so, it's a generation shift, i think.


And @noiseboyuk also has a point: for Kontakt-Library stuff, NI is stronger than ever.
It's more this; they could choose to split up into different branches, instead of putting everything into one (or four, to be precise) Kompletes over and over again (at least Absynth is dead).

I actually saw that crush pack seems to be added soon into Komplete now, so, if it's there, i actually could sell my KU13-licence, put the invest in years and years of K-NOW and only need to find a way to replace light trilogy. Massive X is there, Hybrid Keys is there, RAUM is also there, Crush pack should be added and everything other i use i can substitute with others...

[digitalboytn]

Lol.. people setting themselves up to be let down here.

Anticipation and expectation ...

[fainak33]

Any information on grace periods or nice tricks one can play with unregistered V13 updates?

Maybe not this time...

I think there is no grace upgrade with new k14. what a shame