Anybody using Kyma? Symbolic Sound released the Pacamara Ristretto

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Is external audio processing still relevant?
https://news.symbolicsound.com/2022/09/ ... retto-apu/
How does Kyma compare to Max/MSP? It has a high price tag, but if it delivers the performance of a high end CPU with water cooling and such or a Mac Pro Max, it could be worth it…

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Kyma is high quality, unique software with a lonnng learning curve.
As a result, it always had a small boutique customer base of pros and geeks.
With limited customers, the two partners need a lot of profit from each copy they sell.
A cheap 4-core chip is enough value-adding to justify $3800 that will sustain their business.
It's like an expensive sports car that's a waste of money for transport but not if you live to drive.
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Max is more flexible, even if you disregard the Jitter stuff for video. It's therefore also harder to learn than Kyma in my experience. Kyma is unique and has a peculiar UI that may or may not appeal to you, but it's faster to get good results when you know what you're doing. It's also easier to just mess around with and come up with something good when starting from scratch.

The greatest advantage with Kyma is the Parameter Field - these are scriptable parameters in modules (called Sounds in Kyma) where you can use Capytalk (a simplified variation of Smalltalk) to create anything from a simple slider to a step sequencer or algorithmic variations to that parameter. It's very powerful and deceptively simple.

Having said that, Max has a much wider user base, and thus a vast amount of ready made patches and packages to choose from. And you can download and try the demo for free. Kyma won't run without the hardware attached. They both provide excellent support. I love both but if forced to choose Max comes out on top for me. Just about.

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