Which plugins are hyped too much in your opinion?

[chagzuki]

OK, one example if you really want one. I really love Sia.
Maybe you know this song, maybe you don’t.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cxjvTXo9WWM
That’s the best example of a modern artist that feels complete to me.

This is the very definition of manufactured, turgid, lifeless, non-human dross. Not that I'm into Baudrillard, but this is really what happens when everything is a copy of a copy such that the very idea of expression, art, integrity has disappeared completely.

Such things can be well-produced though, and better-produced than things with an artistic origin. And there's an artistic component to producing/production.

[Leo1999]

OK, one example if you really want one. I really love Sia.
Maybe you know this song, maybe you don’t.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cxjvTXo9WWM
That’s the best example of a modern artist that feels complete to me.

I really think Stevie Wonder wrote good songs, I like them, but they’re kinda painful to listen to, the sound feels empty to me, no power, no body, and those awful synths...
You see ? Tastes...

I listened to it, never heard it before, but it was like I have already heard
something similar several times;
voice is good, but ,verse,refrain, verse, 4x refrain a bit boring to me and mix to clean without dynamics and energy and power, just what
you wrote about Stevie Wonder haha
I mean, his singing and keyboard playing is so full of dynamic power imo,
but ok, tastes are different and that's good, thanks for sharing

I also think this one is really excellent if you’re interested (Sia also, less "boring") :
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tt2k8PGm-TI

No problem for me anyway my friend ! My wife and I listen to totally different genres and I love asking her what she perceives in every song, why she likes it... and also why she dislikes some of the songs I love. That’s how I understand better how people can react to different things, this helps me a lot with music making.

We are all be free to love what we love, simple as that. What is the reference ? Mozart ? Beethoven ? Jimi Hendrix ? David Bowie ?... Where does it end ??

I like Dusk til dawn, the female and male voice together is very nice,
I like these marching snare drums in refrain and I think a bridge part
could make the song even better, I mean a part that brings something unexpected, but it's obviously not fashion any more.
Nice production

[DJErmac]

OK, other examples. Bjork is still releasing songs... She released a couple of songs last week...

Sia, with another sound :

"Audio"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tjA7nAHOAww

"Thunderclouds"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mILth-K6KvM

Still think that’s totally uninteresting ? I find it really creative, and I’m not the only one.
But you’re free to, of course. Sia won’t be disappointed.

[Leo1999]

I see, you are obviously into Sia. I think Thunderclouds is the most creative, there's a kinda 50s style part I dig, cool.
You have hyped Sia quite a lot haha

Back to the topic
I think a dev with lots of hypers/lovers and haters at the same time worth being mentioned is Acustica Audio, but I don't know which AA
plugin is the most popular

[vurt]

OK, other examples. Bjork is still releasing songs... She released a couple of songs last week...

Sia, with another sound :

"Audio"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tjA7nAHOAww

"Thunderclouds"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mILth-K6KvM

Still think that’s totally uninteresting ? I find it really creative, and I’m not the only one.
But you’re free to, of course. Sia won’t be disappointed.

bjorks new album is due soon, the atopos song is great

[DJErmac]

I see, you are obviously into Sia. I think Thunderclouds is the most creative, there's a kinda 50s style part I dig, cool.
You have hyped Sia quite a lot haha

Well, it’s one of the best examples I’ve found that can fit the bill and won’t surprise you all too much.
I’m mostly into EDM (generic word for all kind of electronic clubbing styles) : I’m unsure anyone would have enjoyed it here...
EDM is codified, just like rap music. If you don’t get what you’re supposed to notify, you’ll jump to the conclusion that it’s all the same and there’s nothing to see here. When you’re into it, a simple SFX can make the whole crowd scream in joy. It’s all about energy, in some frequencies, trance in its basic definition, raw power so you let off steam... And some don’t get the point. Well, to me the same applies to any guitar solo actually : I really don’t get what I’m supposed to listen to. It sounds to me like the guy is having some kind of seizure and makes pure nonsense, but the crowd is going crazy. I just don’t get it. All guitar solos sound the same to me : nonsense, like the guy is presenting us his new random notes pattern.
Tastes, once again.
Good thing : people who like Queen can listen to Queen, people who like Vivaldi can listen to Vivaldi, people who......

[DJErmac]

OK, other examples. Bjork is still releasing songs... She released a couple of songs last week...

Sia, with another sound :

"Audio"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tjA7nAHOAww

"Thunderclouds"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mILth-K6KvM

Still think that’s totally uninteresting ? I find it really creative, and I’m not the only one.
But you’re free to, of course. Sia won’t be disappointed.

bjorks new album is due soon, the atopos song is great

Oh yeah, it’s the first we discovered from the new album !!

[DJErmac]

Something really funny happened to me. We were talking hardcore songs with different people, and I chose this example (every hardcore lover knew those Thunderdome compilations). But I chose it as a BAD example, expecting a good laugh, as to me it’s pure CRAP...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ERVCzpO9vo8
And THREE times, three people answered "yeah, this one was great, loved it !"...
That’s how you learn it’s quite difficult to understand how tastes work... better cope with it and don’t give a s#it...

[HcDoom]

That song was made over 25 years ago - people wanted to try something different. It was great and innovative in that genre in 95-96 - product of that era, no need to belittle it.

[chagzuki]

That song

I love the singing.

[DJErmac]

That song was made over 25 years ago - people wanted to try something different. It was great and innovative in that genre in 95-96 - product of that era, no need to belittle it.

Well, you’re entirely right.
This story to me is the proof that I don’t need to understand, I need to accept.
I don’t like this thing but some people do ? OK.
That’s exactly what I’m basically saying in this entire topic.
It’s fascinating to hear what other people have to say, especially when you absolutely don’t understand how it’s possible. And that’s why I’m here. To talk with all of you.

[dionenoid]

Something really funny happened to me. We were talking hardcore songs with different people, and I chose this example (every hardcore lover knew those Thunderdome compilations). But I chose it as a BAD example, expecting a good laugh, as to me it’s pure CRAP...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ERVCzpO9vo8
And THREE times, three people answered "yeah, this one was great, loved it !"...
That’s how you learn it’s quite difficult to understand how tastes work... better cope with it and don’t give a s#it...

Classic tune, well the original was. It was kinda groundbreaking at the time, altho just being a 909 distorted through a Mackie mixer and a Lexicon reverb, but it worked well on parties. I believe it started as an improv after a live performance, ppl wanted an encore so Marc just ran his 909 and started tweaking it. It was never intended to be a serious release.

Fun fact : The kicks in that track (well, the original) were sampled by almost every electronic producer that came after, and sold on many sample cd's and banks. Good chance that if you're into EDM, Trance or whatever, you have heard or used these kicks a lot of times already.

[DJErmac]

Something really funny happened to me. We were talking hardcore songs with different people, and I chose this example (every hardcore lover knew those Thunderdome compilations). But I chose it as a BAD example, expecting a good laugh, as to me it’s pure CRAP...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ERVCzpO9vo8
And THREE times, three people answered "yeah, this one was great, loved it !"...
That’s how you learn it’s quite difficult to understand how tastes work... better cope with it and don’t give a s#it...

Classic tune, well the original was. It was kinda groundbreaking at the time, altho just being a 909 distorted through a Mackie mixer and a Lexicon reverb, but it worked well on parties. I believe it started as an improv after a live performance, ppl wanted an encore so Marc just ran his 909 and started tweaking it. It was never intended to be a serious release.

Fun fact : The kicks in that track (well, the original) were sampled by almost every electronic producer that came after, and sold on many sample cd's and banks. Good chance that if you're into EDM, Trance or whatever, you have heard or used these kicks a lot of times already.

That’s it ! When you don’t understand the point, you simply don’t get it, so just leave it. Some people know what to do with it.

Thanks a lot for these details.

I’ve never been using this kind of kicks btw, but nevermind. I’ve heard similar sounding indeed, I believe you for sure.

[mixyguy2]

is over hyped "things other people go on about, that i personally have no use for"?

Based on some of the replies, apparently it can mean whatever you want it to mean. This is plugins in my opinion.

[zerocrossing]

- Diva : yes, it sounds absolutely superb if you’re after nostalgic sound, but for anything modern it’s unusable. It’s a niche product after all : people who loved 80’s sound will love it for sure. But I strongly doubt you really hear Diva on every today’s radio hit. Praise Diva for what it is : a best of all your old synths. We’re in 2022. People who care about this old stuff are not really the vast majority of successful modern producers. Diva is NOT that synth you believe it is, it’s not the ultimate game changer or the mother of all synths : for some of us it’s a meh synth. It fits your needs for sure, I respect that, but young producers will probably go "WTF ?! Sounds like grandpa’s records" (yes, of course, unless they’re after that 80’s sound also, don’t be stupid lol)...

Then you are either listening to the wrong music and/or using Diva incorrectly. I see a lot of modern artists using analogs, even vintage ones. It’s a lack of imagination that would lead one to believe that Diva, or any actual analog, is stuck sounding like the past, just like the ancient piano can still be found in music.