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DarkMP220 · Post by **DarkMP220** » Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:54 pm

hello. This is the frequency response of my headphones. What can you advise, do you think this is a normal frequency response or can I somehow fix it with the help of an equalizer? There is such a problem that it is unlikely that I will be able to fix it.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:58 pm

https://headphones.com/pages/measuremen ... y-response

mgw38 · Post by **mgw38** » Sat Sep 17, 2022 1:06 pm

What headphone is that?

DarkMP220 · Post by **DarkMP220** » Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:07 pm

mgw38 wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 1:06 pm What headphone is that?

isk mhd 9000

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:29 pm

That’s a pretty harsh mid bump. I’m dealing with mixing for the Meta Oculus 2 and it’s got a lot of low end roll off and a big spike around 3.5 kHz. Some EQ helps, but the truth is, sucky headphones are sucky headphones. The good news is, replacements from AKG, Sennheiser, and Beyerdynamic are pretty cheap these days.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail ... headphones

DarkMP220 · Post by **DarkMP220** » Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:43 pm

zerocrossing wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:29 pm That’s a pretty harsh mid bump. I’m dealing with mixing for the Meta Oculus 2 and it’s got a lot of low end roll off and a big spike around 3.5 kHz. Some EQ helps, but the truth is, sucky headphones are sucky headphones. The good news is, replacements from AKG, Sennheiser, and Beyerdynamic are pretty cheap these days.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail ... headphones

yes, you're right. It's high time I changed my headphones for something good. thank you very much.

DarkMP220 · Post by **DarkMP220** » Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:45 pm

chk071 wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:58 pm https://headphones.com/pages/measuremen ... y-response

useful information. Thank you very much

DarkMP220 · Post by **DarkMP220** » Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:53 pm

zerocrossing wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:29 pm That’s a pretty harsh mid bump. I’m dealing with mixing for the Meta Oculus 2 and it’s got a lot of low end roll off and a big spike around 3.5 kHz. Some EQ helps, but the truth is, sucky headphones are sucky headphones. The good news is, replacements from AKG, Sennheiser, and Beyerdynamic are pretty cheap these days.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail ... headphones

As long as I have these headphones. Could you please advise me how to correct this temporarily.

mgw38 · Post by **mgw38** » Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:00 pm

DarkMP220 wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:07 pm
mgw38 wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 1:06 pm What headphone is that?
isk mhd 9000

Frequency response graphs tend to be overrated. They give you some indication about the experience but do not even remotely tell the whole story.

In the end everything is down to personal preference. Your ears also have a frequency response and that can have a lot of variations in it as well. Just getting a flat response in your headphones might not mean anything at all if you don't hear it flat.

In general though, you would like to have something that is close to the Harman target curve, which you can look up at the headphone.com link that chk071 posted.

But I would be very careful with EQing it to meet any given target curve. You can use EQ to even out some inconsistencies, but don't try to turn the headphones into something they are not. Get another headphone instead.

DarkMP220 · Post by **DarkMP220** » Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:07 pm

mgw38 wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:00 pm
DarkMP220 wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:07 pm
mgw38 wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 1:06 pm What headphone is that?
isk mhd 9000
Frequency response graphs tend to be overrated. They give you some indication about the experience but do not even remotely tell the whole story.

In the end everything is down to personal preference. Your ears also have a frequency response and that can have a lot of variations in it as well. Just getting a flat response in your headphones might not mean anything at all if you don't hear it flat.

In general though, you would like to have something that is close to the Harman target curve, which you can look up at the headphone.com link that chk071 posted.

But I would be very careful with EQing it to meet any given target curve. You can use EQ to even out some inconsistencies, but don't try to turn the headphones into something they are not. Get another headphone instead.

yes, you are definitely right. to be honest, I'm used to these headphones when I listen to the project on some devices, it sounds normal. I think it's the equalizer in my head that does everything)) but I definitely need to buy new headphones. Thanks very much )

mgw38 · Post by **mgw38** » Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:16 pm

DarkMP220 wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:53 pm
zerocrossing wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:29 pm That’s a pretty harsh mid bump. I’m dealing with mixing for the Meta Oculus 2 and it’s got a lot of low end roll off and a big spike around 3.5 kHz. Some EQ helps, but the truth is, sucky headphones are sucky headphones. The good news is, replacements from AKG, Sennheiser, and Beyerdynamic are pretty cheap these days.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail ... headphones
As long as I have these headphones. Could you please advise me how to correct this temporarily.

I am not an expert but this is where I would start.

Try bringing the level around 200 Hz down a bit and the level around 4-5k Hz up somewhat. Choose a fairly wide q for the 200 Hz adjustment and an as wide as possible q for the 4-5k adjustment (you do not want to increase the bump around 8k). Try to stay within 1-3dB for these adjustments.

I did a similar thing not that long ago when I decided to adjust left and right channels in my setup to match my minor hearing loss in my left ear (which looks a lot like your frequency graph). Two small adjustments at 2.5dB each did the trick for me.

But once again, I'm not an expert, so take this with a grain of salt.

DarkMP220 · Post by **DarkMP220** » Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:43 pm

mgw38 wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:16 pm
DarkMP220 wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:53 pm
zerocrossing wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:29 pm That’s a pretty harsh mid bump. I’m dealing with mixing for the Meta Oculus 2 and it’s got a lot of low end roll off and a big spike around 3.5 kHz. Some EQ helps, but the truth is, sucky headphones are sucky headphones. The good news is, replacements from AKG, Sennheiser, and Beyerdynamic are pretty cheap these days.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail ... headphones
As long as I have these headphones. Could you please advise me how to correct this temporarily.
I am not an expert but this is where I would start.

Try bringing the level around 200 Hz down a bit and the level around 4-5k Hz up somewhat. Choose a fairly wide q for the 200 Hz adjustment and an as wide as possible q for the 4-5k adjustment (you do not want to increase the bump around 8k). Try to stay within 1-3dB for these adjustments.

I did a similar thing not that long ago when I decided to adjust left and right channels in my setup to match my minor hearing loss in my left ear (which looks a lot like your frequency graph). Two small adjustments at 2.5dB each did the trick for me.

But once again, I'm not an expert, so take this with a grain of salt.

Very clear and detailed explanation. I hope to do it right)) this morning I have been reading for several hours trying to understand what it is, because I did not know about it until today. Thank you so much. helped a lot.

DarkMP220 · Post by **DarkMP220** » Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:52 pm

mgw38 wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:16 pm
DarkMP220 wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:53 pm
zerocrossing wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:29 pm That’s a pretty harsh mid bump. I’m dealing with mixing for the Meta Oculus 2 and it’s got a lot of low end roll off and a big spike around 3.5 kHz. Some EQ helps, but the truth is, sucky headphones are sucky headphones. The good news is, replacements from AKG, Sennheiser, and Beyerdynamic are pretty cheap these days.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail ... headphones
As long as I have these headphones. Could you please advise me how to correct this temporarily.
I am not an expert but this is where I would start.

Try bringing the level around 200 Hz down a bit and the level around 4-5k Hz up somewhat. Choose a fairly wide q for the 200 Hz adjustment and an as wide as possible q for the 4-5k adjustment (you do not want to increase the bump around 8k). Try to stay within 1-3dB for these adjustments.

I did a similar thing not that long ago when I decided to adjust left and right channels in my setup to match my minor hearing loss in my left ear (which looks a lot like your frequency graph). Two small adjustments at 2.5dB each did the trick for me.

But once again, I'm not an expert, so take this with a grain of salt.

I know it's stupid that I don't know. why here they show from 70 to 120 dB, to be honest, I'm used to the values of DAW, for example, there is from -70 to 6 dB.

mgw38 · Post by **mgw38** » Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:35 pm

DarkMP220 wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:52 pm I know it's stupid that I don't know. why here they show from 70 to 120 dB, to be honest, I'm used to the values of DAW, for example, there is from -70 to 6 dB.

Not stupid at all. This can be quite confusing. Short answer is that these values measure different things. I would not worry about that too much. What you can do is simply do a slow sweep in your DAW and check the perceived volume for each frequency after EQ. Ideally, you should hear every frequency at the same level.

mgw38 · Post by **mgw38** » Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:35 pm

Double post.

frequency response headphone