iZotope RX10 and Ozone 10 announced
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5916 posts since 25 Jan, 2007
I downloaded the RX10 demo. Speech to text doesn't work well and was a pointless waste of development resources that should have gone into, say, fixing the broken dialogue detection algorithm in Dialog Isolate. Or De-bird, De-plane, better real time noise reduction, any of 100 other useful features that actually relate to noise reduction.
The feathering is nice to have, but really the only genuinely new useful feature to me is the updated Spectral Repair. In my tests its performance was variable, but at its best it worked really well on some speech that had a big gentle LPF applied. Other times it mushed the speech with growly noise, so it's hit and miss.
I qualify for a $199 update to Everything iZotope, on paper an amazing deal, but even with the extra Audio Deluxe discount I'm not sure it's worth it. Ozone 10 I won't use because it doesn't support Waves still. Neutron 4 has nothing really useful above 3. I have a thousand reverbs, I don't need Neoverb. That just leaves one half-working useful new feature in RX.
iZotope has definitely lost its way. I used to be their biggest fan, in the glory days each new release of RX unleashed a sonic miricle that anyone in Pro Audio couldn't be without. Now they're being comprehensively overtaken by Acon and Waves, while they faff about with pointless crap like audio to text and update their UIs to look prettier.
The feathering is nice to have, but really the only genuinely new useful feature to me is the updated Spectral Repair. In my tests its performance was variable, but at its best it worked really well on some speech that had a big gentle LPF applied. Other times it mushed the speech with growly noise, so it's hit and miss.
I qualify for a $199 update to Everything iZotope, on paper an amazing deal, but even with the extra Audio Deluxe discount I'm not sure it's worth it. Ozone 10 I won't use because it doesn't support Waves still. Neutron 4 has nothing really useful above 3. I have a thousand reverbs, I don't need Neoverb. That just leaves one half-working useful new feature in RX.
iZotope has definitely lost its way. I used to be their biggest fan, in the glory days each new release of RX unleashed a sonic miricle that anyone in Pro Audio couldn't be without. Now they're being comprehensively overtaken by Acon and Waves, while they faff about with pointless crap like audio to text and update their UIs to look prettier.
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- KVRAF
- 2548 posts since 7 Jul, 2003 from Huntington, WV
I gave the Music Rebalance feature another try, and the good news is it's no longer crashing RX10 when I try to use it.
The bad news is, it's still not very effective. I tried it on a slow song that only had a simple synth pad, a single female vocal, and some very sparse electronic percussion. I used the "Seperate" button to split those into separate tracks. The "vocal" track still contained a fair amount of the synth pad. The "Percussion" track contained none of the electronic percussion, no bass drum, no snare, no toms, nothing at all in fact. The "Bass" track also contained nothing, but that was expected, because this song didn't have a bass part. The "Other" track did contain a nicely isolated synth pad track. So, one track out of four was functional.
I haven't tested it on other pieces of music yet, and I'd imagine it does much better on some songs, but I honestly don't have high hopes for the feature.
The bad news is, it's still not very effective. I tried it on a slow song that only had a simple synth pad, a single female vocal, and some very sparse electronic percussion. I used the "Seperate" button to split those into separate tracks. The "vocal" track still contained a fair amount of the synth pad. The "Percussion" track contained none of the electronic percussion, no bass drum, no snare, no toms, nothing at all in fact. The "Bass" track also contained nothing, but that was expected, because this song didn't have a bass part. The "Other" track did contain a nicely isolated synth pad track. So, one track out of four was functional.
I haven't tested it on other pieces of music yet, and I'd imagine it does much better on some songs, but I honestly don't have high hopes for the feature.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5916 posts since 25 Jan, 2007
Here’s RX8 music rebalance on a couple of totally different songs where it is little short of miraculous.
EDIT - embed isn’t working so you’ll have to click the link.
But - like many things in RX, it is unpredictably hit and miss.
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- KVRist
- 161 posts since 31 Aug, 2020
Just in case that you’re wondering how to reduce your dependence on the money grab RX: viewtopic.php?t=586574
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- KVRian
- 851 posts since 24 Mar, 2021
Ozone 10 is out too and look very interesting
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5916 posts since 25 Jan, 2007
Yikes. Absynth retired from Komplete 14, and the standalone mothership now retired in all versions of Ozone 10.
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Soundwide giveth, and Soundwide taketh away.
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- KVRian
- 945 posts since 13 Oct, 2006
i noticed the buy 9 and get 10 for free sale but i didnt expect to receive 10standard free after buying 9standard secondhand here in the marketplace for 40€...might upgrade to advanced 
- KVRian
- 545 posts since 17 Sep, 2020
The text-to-speech thing is terrible imo. I've tried it on several pieces of audio and the results were poor.
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- KVRAF
- 2623 posts since 20 Oct, 2014
The soft clipper thingy seems to be quite interesting, and also sounds less distorted to my ears than a regular clipper plugin. But! Seems to me that Izotope missed to optimize the cpu usage for this release, it even feels like lot of denormals are happening, so no matter how big my sample buffer is, I always get s-t-tt-tt-tt-tuuuu-ttt-tering!!!!!!
Would be great if Izotope could get rid of those cpu spikes and slowdowns...
Would be great if Izotope could get rid of those cpu spikes and slowdowns...
- KVRist
- 163 posts since 7 Sep, 2022
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- KVRist
- 98 posts since 22 May, 2022
I really like, that there are involving more and more AI in their products, but keep the manual tweaking of knobs. I think, that many users are not so experienced in mastering, but want to make music 
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- KVRist
- 447 posts since 1 Feb, 2022
With 10, don't just select 'RNB' or 'EDM' in the assistant. Load it up with a bunch of reference tracks and cycle through those and see how Ozone applies what it thinks you are looking for. Half will be horrible, but you might be surprised what it comes up with. I just wish they kept the stand alone.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5916 posts since 25 Jan, 2007
I think if you use it as a suite (and not in standalone, which no longer exists), it’s pretty good. But for me, none of the extra features made it a must-have, I have so many alternatives for the areas it covers. I don’t use it in standalone, its support of third party plugs is very patchy (no Waves at all). Oh, and the new assistant thing doesn’t work at all in Acon Acoustica.matamoris wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:44 pm What's the general sentiment around Ozone 10? Good upgrade from 9?
But best thing is to demo it. I got a bit of a kick uninstalling it at the end.
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- KVRAF
- 4589 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
Ozone 10 impact is very similiar to Neutron Transient Shaper, but more streamlined. Doesn't need to compensate gain manually, has 4 bands instead of 3 and also adjustable release time.
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Not worth the upgrade for me, but certainly useful.
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Not worth the upgrade for me, but certainly useful.
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Tricky-Loops wrote: (...)someone like Armin van Buuren who claims to make a track in half an hour and all his songs sound somewhat boring(...)
Tricky-Loops wrote: (...)someone like Armin van Buuren who claims to make a track in half an hour and all his songs sound somewhat boring(...)
