Izotope or anything else as an alternative to Soothe 2 ?
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- KVRer
- 15 posts since 4 Apr, 2022
HI All,
I've recently come across Soothe 2 on Youtube, It sounds amazing and I'm sure it could be super useful removing unwanted resonances. The only problem is, Soothe is super expensive. I already own Izotope ( Ozone & Neutron 9 ) plus many other plugins. Is there anything else out there that could be used a solid alternative to Soothe 2? I mainly interested in using it for guitars as I use amp sim pedals and they produce some fizz and nasty resonances which I used to tame using SSL console plugins and things like that.
I've recently come across Soothe 2 on Youtube, It sounds amazing and I'm sure it could be super useful removing unwanted resonances. The only problem is, Soothe is super expensive. I already own Izotope ( Ozone & Neutron 9 ) plus many other plugins. Is there anything else out there that could be used a solid alternative to Soothe 2? I mainly interested in using it for guitars as I use amp sim pedals and they produce some fizz and nasty resonances which I used to tame using SSL console plugins and things like that.
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- KVRian
- 811 posts since 2 Aug, 2013
There's nothing on the market that comes close to soothe 2. There are similar alternatives, but nothing as precise as suppressing resonance's as soothe.
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Andreya_Autumn Andreya_Autumn https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=553235
- KVRian
- 510 posts since 21 Feb, 2022
Unfortunately I have to agree. When it comes to taming moving resonances in things like vocal recordings, it seems like it actually is the best. I haven't tried Baby Audio's take on the same idea, people mostly seem to say it's fine but not great comparatively. There are plenty of sound sweeteners like Gullfoss out there (some of them pretty pricey too), and it's been discussed at length here how much these overlap. Generally the verdict is Soothe 2 is unmatched for notching out resonances.
If your primary use case for it is guitar though, there may be other good options for you, depending on what kind of playing you're doing. If the music your play mostly stays in the same key, you're likely going to be dealing with a handful of static frequencies that resonate unnaturally. Very typical scenario: The tune is in G major, and the G and B strings have some overtones that resonate way too loud in the recordings.
In that situation a dynamic compressor like TDR Nova with some narrow bands on the resonances will work great. Yes it takes longer to set up than Soothe would, but it's doable and can sound great. Compare that to a vocal take where the resonance moves to a new frequency every note... obviously in the latter case the dynamic EQ method would require lots of automation. That's what Soothe is for, not having to do all that work by hand.
But whenever the resonances are static frequencies that work really isn't so bad. I personally ended up selling Soothe off, because I found those cases where the resonances move around aren't that common in my work for now. I may pick it up again at some point...
If your primary use case for it is guitar though, there may be other good options for you, depending on what kind of playing you're doing. If the music your play mostly stays in the same key, you're likely going to be dealing with a handful of static frequencies that resonate unnaturally. Very typical scenario: The tune is in G major, and the G and B strings have some overtones that resonate way too loud in the recordings.
In that situation a dynamic compressor like TDR Nova with some narrow bands on the resonances will work great. Yes it takes longer to set up than Soothe would, but it's doable and can sound great. Compare that to a vocal take where the resonance moves to a new frequency every note... obviously in the latter case the dynamic EQ method would require lots of automation. That's what Soothe is for, not having to do all that work by hand.
But whenever the resonances are static frequencies that work really isn't so bad. I personally ended up selling Soothe off, because I found those cases where the resonances move around aren't that common in my work for now. I may pick it up again at some point...
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- KVRist
- 89 posts since 2 Jun, 2014 from Finland
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 15 posts since 4 Apr, 2022
I’ve just tried it and it works really well, thanks!
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 15 posts since 4 Apr, 2022
Apparently not as accurately. Ozone Spectral shaper is better for the task according to Izotope but none of those can replace Dseq or Soothe.Kongru wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:54 am Does Neutron's Sculptor not do a similar thing? It has different presets.
- KVRian
- 849 posts since 11 Mar, 2010
DSEQ here as well.
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- KVRian
- 851 posts since 24 Mar, 2021
DSEQ it's not subpair of Soothe2, i tested them both very deeply, they are different, sometime one win, sometime win the other
Highly suggested.
It's also release without any BS authorizing system, have a very usefull online/offline rendering settings to spare cpu during the work, but having the best results on rendering
Highly suggested.
It's also release without any BS authorizing system, have a very usefull online/offline rendering settings to spare cpu during the work, but having the best results on rendering
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vitocorleone123 vitocorleone123 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=333504
- KVRAF
- 2502 posts since 30 Jun, 2014 from Pacific NW
Chose DSEQ over Soothe. They aren't identical in terms of results (as in, they're both good but one isn't always better than the other), as has been said, but I don't deal with resonance enough to bother with multiple solutions.
- KVRAF
- 1928 posts since 23 Sep, 2005
iZotope's Ozone 10 Advanced version has the new 'Stabilizer' Module to deal with Resonances.
https://www.izotope.com/en/products/ozo ... lizer.html
https://www.izotope.com/en/products/ozo ... lizer.html
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- KVRian
- 1360 posts since 4 Aug, 2004 from Ain't tellin' ya...
Kind of hard to remove resonances when your own ears have them, and you have also tinnitus, but anyway, I though I'd play here. I wish there was a plugin for that shit, one that you can plug into your brain LOL.
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- KVRian
- 1384 posts since 24 Sep, 2021
Have you tried acupuncture? I know a person who cured tinnitus. Took half a year though.benjamind wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 4:52 am Kind of hard to remove resonances when your own ears have them, and you have also tinnitus, but anyway, I though I'd play here. I wish there was a plugin for that shit, one that you can plug into your brain LOL.
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- KVRian
- 1380 posts since 8 Jan, 2012 from frankfurt, Germany
