TBTech Kirchhoff-EQ
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 364 posts since 7 Sep, 2012
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- KVRAF
- 7688 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
It’s named for Gustav Kirchhoff, who gave us Kirchhoff’s Laws. These basically say that current and voltage for an electrical circuit must be solved as a series of linear equations.
It’s how circuit simulation is done.
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP
- KVRian
- 575 posts since 30 Jan, 2021
Hmm. I've been reading here and a few other places how Kirchhoff EQ is the 2nd coming of Christ. I'm always suspicious when, out of the blue, heaps of praise is put on a company or plugin with no track record.
The standards I use to measure legitimacy in products is Sound On Sound and Mixonline. I figure since they're industry standards and give out tech awards, I have to respect their opinion.
Funny thing is, Kirchoff has been out for a few years and there's not one mention of it in SOS or Mixonline. So I'm wondering now if Kirchoff is just snake oil or the be all and end all of EQ's.
The standards I use to measure legitimacy in products is Sound On Sound and Mixonline. I figure since they're industry standards and give out tech awards, I have to respect their opinion.
Funny thing is, Kirchoff has been out for a few years and there's not one mention of it in SOS or Mixonline. So I'm wondering now if Kirchoff is just snake oil or the be all and end all of EQ's.
If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullshit.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 364 posts since 7 Sep, 2012
There's no need to wonder. They have a demo available so you can decide for yourself, instead of trusting paid advertisements.
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- KVRAF
- 5200 posts since 17 Aug, 2004
First: Noone cares for your standards and they are irrational anyway.Boy Wonder wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:08 pm Hmm. I've been reading here and a few other places how Kirchhoff EQ is the 2nd coming of Christ. I'm always suspicious when, out of the blue, heaps of praise is put on a company or plugin with no track record.
The standards I use to measure legitimacy in products is Sound On Sound and Mixonline. I figure since they're industry standards and give out tech awards, I have to respect their opinion.
Funny thing is, Kirchoff has been out for a few years and there's not one mention of it in SOS or Mixonline. So I'm wondering now if Kirchoff is just snake oil or the be all and end all of EQ's.
Flash news: to get a review in SOS you need to pay them unless you want to wait years in advance for them to pick you up. Hence your logic is silly because you are under the impression quality or legitimacy of a product is valid if it is available in some online magazine that is releasing paid and biased reviews.
Second: Kirchoff EQ is released in November 2021 so your " Kirchoff has been out for a few years and there's not one mention of it in SOS" is another silly point. It's not out for a year. Or you don't understand what is a "year"
Third: It's an EQ so it's hardly a snake oil plugin. This is another jewel.
All in all your logic is flawed completely and your arguments are full of holes in logic and timeline but this is fine. I can make better music than Ryan Gosling but no one believes me.
At the top of everything, there's a Trial so you can test this product on your own music instead of thinking about product quality based on someone else's "review".
Buy me a bear later. You are welcome.
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- KVRian
- 1316 posts since 23 May, 2016
Legit answer. Bear will be delivered soonkmonkey wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 1:03 pmFirst: Noone cares for your standards and they are irrational anyway.Boy Wonder wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:08 pm Hmm. I've been reading here and a few other places how Kirchhoff EQ is the 2nd coming of Christ. I'm always suspicious when, out of the blue, heaps of praise is put on a company or plugin with no track record.
The standards I use to measure legitimacy in products is Sound On Sound and Mixonline. I figure since they're industry standards and give out tech awards, I have to respect their opinion.
Funny thing is, Kirchoff has been out for a few years and there's not one mention of it in SOS or Mixonline. So I'm wondering now if Kirchoff is just snake oil or the be all and end all of EQ's.
Flash news: to get a review in SOS you need to pay them unless you want to wait years in advance for them to pick you up. Hence your logic is silly because you are under the impression quality or legitimacy of a product is valid if it is available in some online magazine that is releasing paid and biased reviews.
Second: Kirchoff EQ is released in November 2021 so your " Kirchoff has been out for a few years and there's not one mention of it in SOS" is another silly point. It's not out for a year. Or you don't understand what is a "year"
Third: It's an EQ so it's hardly a snake oil plugin. This is another jewel.
All in all your logic is flawed completely and your arguments are full of holes in logic and timeline but this is fine. I can make better music than Ryan Gosling but no one believes me.
At the top of everything, there's a Trial so you can test this product on your own music instead of thinking about product quality based on someone else's "review".
Buy me a bear later. You are welcome.
Btw Kirchhoff is my goto since its release. Second comes Equilibrium for special cases. Eg kick drum EQ (tighter) or MS stuff is still a bit better there for me.
- KVRist
- 120 posts since 7 Nov, 2021
I downloaded Windows version,
but plugin is completely empty and white?
but plugin is completely empty and white?
- KVRist
- 38 posts since 2 Jun, 2004
Great sounding EQ. And my bear agrees.
- KVRian
- 1499 posts since 7 Jun, 2021
Hello,
1. has anybody insight if a BlackFriday deal or similar is to expect ?
2. its right now $149 instead of "Listprice" $189. ( $160 with taxes for me)
Is this a regular deal, or just a "Carpet basar" type of thing ?
3. just alone for realtime "dynamic enhancement or duck down, per band",
has this one anything better to deliver than FF pro-Q or UVI Shade ?
(user access beeing a point! ) ( i have these both, also Minimal morph EQ)
....i´m not into production works, only realtime playing, or samples generation.
Dynamic acceleration of single bands becoming more and more a Thing for me. (The Thing )
would you recommend me the Kirchhoff over those others ?
yeah, i measure it more on the "access" side of the things.
Less so if it would sound better those 5%, i´d might not recognise anyway
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I find wether the UVI Shade nor the FF pro-Q perfect on this for me.
Both win over the other, each in its own regards.
....gonna give the demo a try, but it will take a bit till i get to it. So, i thought i ask, not shure if thats allready "the" sale right now.
1. has anybody insight if a BlackFriday deal or similar is to expect ?
2. its right now $149 instead of "Listprice" $189. ( $160 with taxes for me)
Is this a regular deal, or just a "Carpet basar" type of thing ?
3. just alone for realtime "dynamic enhancement or duck down, per band",
has this one anything better to deliver than FF pro-Q or UVI Shade ?
(user access beeing a point! ) ( i have these both, also Minimal morph EQ)
....i´m not into production works, only realtime playing, or samples generation.
Dynamic acceleration of single bands becoming more and more a Thing for me. (The Thing )
would you recommend me the Kirchhoff over those others ?
yeah, i measure it more on the "access" side of the things.
Less so if it would sound better those 5%, i´d might not recognise anyway
I find wether the UVI Shade nor the FF pro-Q perfect on this for me.
Both win over the other, each in its own regards.
....gonna give the demo a try, but it will take a bit till i get to it. So, i thought i ask, not shure if thats allready "the" sale right now.
"Plugin has turned Drug now"....and the business knows it.
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- KVRist
- 316 posts since 6 Jun, 2003
Obviously, I can't say what they'll do in the future, but I looked and last year I bought Kirchhoff-EQ for $119 during their December holiday sale. The original intro price was $109, so I don't think it will go that low again.Funky40 wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:18 pm Hello,
1. has anybody insight if a BlackFriday deal or similar is to expect ?
2. its right now $149 instead of "Listprice" $189. ( $160 with taxes for me)
Is this a regular deal, or just a "Carpet basar" type of thing ?
....gonna give the demo a try, but it will take a bit till i get to it. So, i thought i ask, not shure if thats allready "the" sale right now.![]()
I personally don't put UVI Shade in the same category. I view Shade as much more a creative tool, than pure EQ, but I'm sure others would disagree and that's fine. I find that Pro-Q 3 is the closest overall in terms of features and workflow. I own both (had Fabfilter first), but got Kirchhoff-EQ, because it's more flexible and allows for more fine tuning in the dynamic section. If I could only own one and that was more important for me, I'd go with Kirchhoff-EQ. For me, the only downside to Kirchhoff-EQ is like DMG Audio it can get overwhelming with choices overall, but I'm sure many people love that.
You didn't ask, but mentioning since it's relevant, if you want a pure dynamic EQ, I really like Sonnox Dynamic EQ. Out of all of them, if I just want a very quick tool for that purpose that sounds really great, I try Sonnox first. If I want or need the most control, it's Kirchhoff-EQ. Pro-Q 3 is somewhere in between those two.
- KVRian
- 1499 posts since 7 Jun, 2021
yeah, me too.sl1200mk2 wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:10 am I personally don't put UVI Shade in the same category. I view Shade as much more a creative tool, than pure EQ,
Thats what i´m hunting for
ohoh, interesting ! much appreciatedsl1200mk2 wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:10 am You didn't ask, but mentioning since it's relevant, if you want a pure dynamic EQ, I really like Sonnox Dynamic EQ. Out of all of them, if I just want a very quick tool for that purpose that sounds really great, I try Sonnox first.
(ohoh, ...edit: wow, ok .....and: now thats a good manual )
Great Infos ! all of it. Thanks Alots !sl1200mk2 wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:10 am If I want or need the most control, it's Kirchhoff-EQ. Pro-Q 3 is somewhere in between those two.
"Plugin has turned Drug now"....and the business knows it.
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- KVRian
- 1316 posts since 23 May, 2016
For maximum dynamic eq AND multiband control check DMG Multiplicity. It's the Dyn Eq to end them all. Kirchhoff has about a quarter of its functionality.Funky40 wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:49 amyeah, me too.sl1200mk2 wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:10 am I personally don't put UVI Shade in the same category. I view Shade as much more a creative tool, than pure EQ,
Thats what i´m hunting for ;
ohoh, interesting ! much appreciatedsl1200mk2 wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:10 am You didn't ask, but mentioning since it's relevant, if you want a pure dynamic EQ, I really like Sonnox Dynamic EQ. Out of all of them, if I just want a very quick tool for that purpose that sounds really great, I try Sonnox first.
(ohoh, ...edit: wow, ok .....and: now thats a good manual )
Great Infos ! all of it. Thanks Alots !sl1200mk2 wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:10 am If I want or need the most control, it's Kirchhoff-EQ. Pro-Q 3 is somewhere in between those two.
But of course you need to know the mixing process well. I would not advise it to a pure musician /producer who lets others do the mixing.
For a mixing /mastering engineer who wants extensive detail control this is heaven though.
