TBTech Kirchhoff-EQ

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plexuss wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 2:09 am Looks interesting. Product name also sounds like a sneeze.
It’s named for Gustav Kirchhoff, who gave us Kirchhoff’s Laws. These basically say that current and voltage for an electrical circuit must be solved as a series of linear equations.

It’s how circuit simulation is done.
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP

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Hmm. I've been reading here and a few other places how Kirchhoff EQ is the 2nd coming of Christ. I'm always suspicious when, out of the blue, heaps of praise is put on a company or plugin with no track record.

The standards I use to measure legitimacy in products is Sound On Sound and Mixonline. I figure since they're industry standards and give out tech awards, I have to respect their opinion.

Funny thing is, Kirchoff has been out for a few years and there's not one mention of it in SOS or Mixonline. So I'm wondering now if Kirchoff is just snake oil or the be all and end all of EQ's.
If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullshit.

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There's no need to wonder. They have a demo available so you can decide for yourself, instead of trusting paid advertisements.

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Boy Wonder wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:08 pm Hmm. I've been reading here and a few other places how Kirchhoff EQ is the 2nd coming of Christ. I'm always suspicious when, out of the blue, heaps of praise is put on a company or plugin with no track record.

The standards I use to measure legitimacy in products is Sound On Sound and Mixonline. I figure since they're industry standards and give out tech awards, I have to respect their opinion.

Funny thing is, Kirchoff has been out for a few years and there's not one mention of it in SOS or Mixonline. So I'm wondering now if Kirchoff is just snake oil or the be all and end all of EQ's.
First: Noone cares for your standards and they are irrational anyway.

Flash news: to get a review in SOS you need to pay them unless you want to wait years in advance for them to pick you up. Hence your logic is silly because you are under the impression quality or legitimacy of a product is valid if it is available in some online magazine that is releasing paid and biased reviews.

Second: Kirchoff EQ is released in November 2021 so your " Kirchoff has been out for a few years and there's not one mention of it in SOS" is another silly point. It's not out for a year. Or you don't understand what is a "year"

Third: It's an EQ so it's hardly a snake oil plugin. This is another jewel.

All in all your logic is flawed completely and your arguments are full of holes in logic and timeline but this is fine. I can make better music than Ryan Gosling but no one believes me.

At the top of everything, there's a Trial so you can test this product on your own music instead of thinking about product quality based on someone else's "review".

Buy me a bear later. You are welcome.

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kmonkey wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 1:03 pm
Boy Wonder wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:08 pm Hmm. I've been reading here and a few other places how Kirchhoff EQ is the 2nd coming of Christ. I'm always suspicious when, out of the blue, heaps of praise is put on a company or plugin with no track record.

The standards I use to measure legitimacy in products is Sound On Sound and Mixonline. I figure since they're industry standards and give out tech awards, I have to respect their opinion.

Funny thing is, Kirchoff has been out for a few years and there's not one mention of it in SOS or Mixonline. So I'm wondering now if Kirchoff is just snake oil or the be all and end all of EQ's.
First: Noone cares for your standards and they are irrational anyway.

Flash news: to get a review in SOS you need to pay them unless you want to wait years in advance for them to pick you up. Hence your logic is silly because you are under the impression quality or legitimacy of a product is valid if it is available in some online magazine that is releasing paid and biased reviews.

Second: Kirchoff EQ is released in November 2021 so your " Kirchoff has been out for a few years and there's not one mention of it in SOS" is another silly point. It's not out for a year. Or you don't understand what is a "year"

Third: It's an EQ so it's hardly a snake oil plugin. This is another jewel.

All in all your logic is flawed completely and your arguments are full of holes in logic and timeline but this is fine. I can make better music than Ryan Gosling but no one believes me.

At the top of everything, there's a Trial so you can test this product on your own music instead of thinking about product quality based on someone else's "review".

Buy me a bear later. You are welcome.
Legit answer. Bear will be delivered soon :hihi:

Btw Kirchhoff is my goto since its release. Second comes Equilibrium for special cases. Eg kick drum EQ (tighter) or MS stuff is still a bit better there for me.

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I downloaded Windows version,
but plugin is completely empty and white?

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You got a really rare copy that will be worth a lot of money to plugin collectors.
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP

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I shouldn't have dl the demo. Adding to the black friday list.

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Great sounding EQ. And my bear agrees.

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Hello,
1. has anybody insight if a BlackFriday deal or similar is to expect ?

2. its right now $149 instead of "Listprice" $189. ( $160 with taxes for me)
Is this a regular deal, or just a "Carpet basar" type of thing ?

3. just alone for realtime "dynamic enhancement or duck down, per band",
has this one anything better to deliver than FF pro-Q or UVI Shade ?
(user access beeing a point! ) ( i have these both, also Minimal morph EQ)

....i´m not into production works, only realtime playing, or samples generation.
Dynamic acceleration of single bands becoming more and more a Thing for me. (The Thing )

would you recommend me the Kirchhoff over those others ?
yeah, i measure it more on the "access" side of the things.
Less so if it would sound better those 5%, i´d might not recognise anyway ;) .

I find wether the UVI Shade nor the FF pro-Q perfect on this for me.
Both win over the other, each in its own regards.
....gonna give the demo a try, but it will take a bit till i get to it. So, i thought i ask, not shure if thats allready "the" sale right now. ;)
"Plugin has turned Drug now"....and the business knows it.

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Funky40 wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:18 pm Hello,
1. has anybody insight if a BlackFriday deal or similar is to expect ?

2. its right now $149 instead of "Listprice" $189. ( $160 with taxes for me)
Is this a regular deal, or just a "Carpet basar" type of thing ?

....gonna give the demo a try, but it will take a bit till i get to it. So, i thought i ask, not shure if thats allready "the" sale right now. ;)
Obviously, I can't say what they'll do in the future, but I looked and last year I bought Kirchhoff-EQ for $119 during their December holiday sale. The original intro price was $109, so I don't think it will go that low again.

I personally don't put UVI Shade in the same category. I view Shade as much more a creative tool, than pure EQ, but I'm sure others would disagree and that's fine. I find that Pro-Q 3 is the closest overall in terms of features and workflow. I own both (had Fabfilter first), but got Kirchhoff-EQ, because it's more flexible and allows for more fine tuning in the dynamic section. If I could only own one and that was more important for me, I'd go with Kirchhoff-EQ. For me, the only downside to Kirchhoff-EQ is like DMG Audio it can get overwhelming with choices overall, but I'm sure many people love that.

You didn't ask, but mentioning since it's relevant, if you want a pure dynamic EQ, I really like Sonnox Dynamic EQ. Out of all of them, if I just want a very quick tool for that purpose that sounds really great, I try Sonnox first. If I want or need the most control, it's Kirchhoff-EQ. Pro-Q 3 is somewhere in between those two.

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sl1200mk2 wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:10 am I personally don't put UVI Shade in the same category. I view Shade as much more a creative tool, than pure EQ,
yeah, me too.
Thats what i´m hunting for ;)
sl1200mk2 wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:10 am You didn't ask, but mentioning since it's relevant, if you want a pure dynamic EQ, I really like Sonnox Dynamic EQ. Out of all of them, if I just want a very quick tool for that purpose that sounds really great, I try Sonnox first.
ohoh, interesting ! much appreciated
(ohoh, ...edit: wow, ok .....and: now thats a good manual )
sl1200mk2 wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:10 am If I want or need the most control, it's Kirchhoff-EQ. Pro-Q 3 is somewhere in between those two.
Great Infos ! all of it. Thanks Alots !
"Plugin has turned Drug now"....and the business knows it.

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Funky40 wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:49 am
sl1200mk2 wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:10 am I personally don't put UVI Shade in the same category. I view Shade as much more a creative tool, than pure EQ,
yeah, me too.
Thats what i´m hunting for ;
sl1200mk2 wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:10 am You didn't ask, but mentioning since it's relevant, if you want a pure dynamic EQ, I really like Sonnox Dynamic EQ. Out of all of them, if I just want a very quick tool for that purpose that sounds really great, I try Sonnox first.
ohoh, interesting ! much appreciated
(ohoh, ...edit: wow, ok .....and: now thats a good manual )
sl1200mk2 wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:10 am If I want or need the most control, it's Kirchhoff-EQ. Pro-Q 3 is somewhere in between those two.
Great Infos ! all of it. Thanks Alots !
For maximum dynamic eq AND multiband control check DMG Multiplicity. It's the Dyn Eq to end them all. Kirchhoff has about a quarter of its functionality.
But of course you need to know the mixing process well. I would not advise it to a pure musician /producer who lets others do the mixing.
For a mixing /mastering engineer who wants extensive detail control this is heaven though.

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This is a nice Eq. Unfortunately, I don't really need to be spending that much on any more eq's. Same for the DMG eq. :shrug:

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