VPS Avenger 2.0 [RELEASED - FAQ in OP]

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This thread was originally for info ahead of release. NB - this isn't an official FAQ, just community wisdom.

POST-RELEASE FAQ

When will the current sale end?
Not before January 1 2024.

Is there a demo?
No.

Why has Avenger lost all my content?
Don't panic - you need to repoint the content location at the top of VMan.

Have the CPU spiking issues been fixed?
For many people affected, v2.0.5 seems to have reduced or eliminated this issue entirely.

V Man says I'm still on 1.8.6, how can I tell what version I am really on?
There was a V Man glitch where it wasn't correctly reporting the installed version. This should have now been fixed. You can check what version your plugin really is by opening Avenger, clicking the SYS tab and the information is at the bottom of that pane.

Does Avenger 2 overwrite Avenger 1? Do old projects work ok?
Yes, Avenger 2 overwrites Avenger 1. So far no reports of any anomalies in past projects, which open with Avenger 2.

Is there a version 2 manual available?
Not yet.

Something has gone wrong with my install (eg Factory library duplicated, fx presets missing etc)
The most reliable way to install is using Vman. Make sure the filepath is set correctly at the top of Vman. Look on disk, if you have more than one version of Factory Library 2 you can delete one. If something has corrupted, delete and download it again.

Can I use SQs and ARPs in commercial projects?
"To make this clear once and for all, we never did and never will "sue" anyone using complete loops, sequences or whatever. Of course you should make your own music. For example there were "releases" by "labels" on apple music etc, which basically were just our complete demo tracks (!). Also we have constantly false youtube claims from automatic AI's, claiming our official sound demos belong to label xy, but in fact they only released the music of an artist, who used some of our Nexus or Avenger arps 1:1. To be able to counter prove these claims we keep owning the copyright on paper. Stop posting chatGPT bs or other false posts. Just make music. Regarding YT claims, which YOU can get when using unaltered pre-made Sequences - that is not our problem, we wont interfere there. (Would be a fulltime job anyways...) These claims are made by bots of revenue collecting labels. You will have to live with that if you use unaltered Sequences 1:1. Thats not only true for our products, thats true for every product on the market you use. Its a thing of our "good new all-digital times" we all have to live with." - Manuel Schleis July 17th 2023

(Manuel has said he won't say any more on this subject).

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Below this, the post was last updated Nov 24, 2023. Only the post-release FAQ above will be updated now Avenger 2 is released.

Pre-release FAQ

When is it released?
November 24 2023.
(countdown banner on the Vengeance website - https://www.vengeance-sound.com/plugins.php )

How much will it be, and what about the upgrade price?
No RRP yet, but upgrade price will be 99 euros. There will be an additional Black Friday discount on top.

Will there be a grace period?
Released November 24 2023: all who bought within the last 3 months are in the grace period and get the update for free.
All who bought between 3-6 months will get a free expansion

What's in it?
Here’s the headline extra features:

Spectral Synthesis
FFT Filter on samples
ARP ratchet filter
ARP Randomizer and Quantizer
New Drum Browser - includes a library of 1500 new drum loops.
Shimmer upgrade for AA Reverb
Bitbite lo-fi FX
Quantum 3x delay
Rutaverb new Reverb plugin with 5 algorithms inc "black hole" and shimmer
Envelope follower as a mod source
Parallel filters with send and return
New drumloop library
Additional user macros
Audio Preview for Presets
Improved Interface and Performance: Smooth 60fps interface, enhanced stability, CPU efficiency, and faster loading times.
New Factory Library: 250 presets, samples, wavetables, and more.

Comprehensive List of Features as at 21 Nov 23
(seems to be new and old)

OSC Modules (up to 8 ) : Each with unique features like V-Saw, vibrato LFO, Chorder, Sub OSC, and various synthesis models.
Transformation Parameters: Xcite, Formant, Bit/Crush, Sync, Noise Generator, FM & AM, FFT editor, and more.
ARP Modules (up to 8 ) : Various modes, randomizer, ratchets, editable note lengths, and numerous presets.
Step SQ Modules (up to 8 ) : Contour, decay, gate time, editable step lengths, and velocity.
Mod Envelope Modules (up to 8 ) : Configurable envelopes, sync mode, trigger modes, and more.
Pitch Envelope Modules (up to 8 ) : BiPolar Pitch envelope, custom depth, editable Pitchbend lag time.
AMP Modules (up to 5 ) : Each with its own envelope, spike parameter, volume, pan, and stereo spread.
FILTER Modules (up to 5 ) : Parallel filtering, various types, and unique drive features.
SHAPER Modules (up to 5 ) : Distortion per voice, pre and post FILTER or AMP modules.
LFO Modules (up to 5 ) : Various shapes, trigger modes, syncable with long LFO times.
Drum Sequencer: Dedicated sequencer with extensive features for drumkits and drumloops.
OSC Quantizer: For locking and quantizing oscillators to specific scales.
Powerful Routing System: Complex filter routings, graphic routing help system.
Modmatrix System: Drag and drop creation, grouped mod matrix, lag parameter, modulation shape.
MACRO Controllers: 12 Macro knobs, 8 Macro buttons.
FX Busses (up to 6 ) : Insert FX Racks, Send FX Rack, Master FX Rack, 34 FX types.
Wavetable Envelope/Editor: Specialized envelope, "wobble" pattern generator.
Additional Features: Mixer Page, keyzones/velzones, MIDI foot pedals and controllers support, global shuffle factor, parameter lock, UNDO function, tooltips, customizable INIT preset, graphic/librarian/browser.

OSC GENERATORS
Classic VA Synthesis: Regular synthesis with various waveforms.
Oscillator Shapes: Import and convert any waveform into an Oscillator shape.
Freeform: Draw your own OSC shapes.
Wavetable Synthesis: Morphable wavetables with a powerful editor.
Resample, Multisamples, Drumkits, Drumloops: For diverse sound creation.
Granular Synthesis: Full granular module in each OSC.
Spectral Synthesis: FFT/timefreeze algorithm for smooth control.
Single Loop/Timestretch: Clear sounding timestretch with formant control.
Real FM Synthesis: Flexible FM & AM engine.
Feedback Synthesis: Feedback/string simulation synthesis.
Guitar Player/Chord Detection Module: Live loop guitar player with expanding factory library.

Specifications

Compatible with VST/PC & Intel Mac VST/AU & AAX.
Over 1180 factory presets.
735 multisamples, 230 special samples, 154 resampler waves, 182 drumkits, 1500 drumloops, 610 wavetables, 243 granular samples, 55 guitar multiloops.
34 FX types, 47 Filtertypes.
Resampling/wavetable generator.
Freeform OSCs, alias-free modulation.
Drag and drop mod matrix, resizable vectorized GUI (4k ready).
Preset search system/tag cloud, external MIDI support.
Up to 1000 playing oscs with one note, MIDI learn function.

More features being added. Manuel has said slated for Avenger 2.1 is a new piano roll feature. Posted by Manuel on November 27, 2022:
msvs wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 7:12 amI know that you cant wait... me too, want to release it and show it to you. But its still work to do, we want to get everything right and include some more features, like the piano roll. Currently we are working on a randomizer (auto composer) for the arp, and this is so cool, I want to show it asap.
(just to highlight - the above is likely to come in 2.1 ie not in the initial 2.0 release)

PREVIEW VIDEOS
Brief overview of what's new
https://youtu.be/lYmJCGU5qSs
Spectral Synthesis
https://youtu.be/6sEPqChN-tM
FFT Filter on samples
https://youtu.be/B-iyB0j8KyU
ARP ratchet filter
https://youtu.be/-cFLkIKZFDQ
New Drum Browser
https://youtu.be/haiLNhpywyU
Shimmer upgrade for AA Reverb
https://youtu.be/yk6P6VcpRZw
BitBite lo-fi FX
https://youtu.be/L732xSAqWGs
Rutaverb new Reverb plugin with 5 algorithms inc "black hole" and shimmer
https://youtu.be/zZ_GeRnzsOw
Envelope Follower as a mod source
https://youtu.be/J1525CpkKKs
ARP Randomizer and Quantizer
https://youtu.be/B3Xs5LWqIe8
Q4antum Multi FX Delay
https://youtu.be/yZY-YThf33o?si=lcGQ_L0WylAueSkg

General overview as at October 2022. The Avenger 2 stuff starts at about 8 minutes in.
https://youtu.be/XnbN5mfBtko?t=477

Going through some of the presets in November 2022:
https://youtu.be/J8MZEgxMFzI

A handful of presets
https://youtu.be/CU4tRehalDA
Last edited by noiseboyuk on Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:55 pm, edited 35 times in total.
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Deadly looks great really enjoying it without codemeter my favourite synth !

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I forgot: Together with the Drum module overhaul, there will be a new library with tons of drumloops from all kind of categories

and you forgot to list also the new Reverb plugin "RutaVerb" with 5 different algorhitms, for exaple "black hole" wich is a very big reverb type. This Reverb will also get a shimmer feature, I will do a video soon

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Will this be a free upgrade or grace period?
I’m thinking of buying Avenger this week.

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IIRC there will be an upgrade price to v2.
How much will be?

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msvs wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:14 am I forgot: Together with the Drum module overhaul, there will be a new library with tons of drumloops from all kind of categories

and you forgot to list also the new Reverb plugin "RutaVerb" with 5 different algorhitms, for exaple "black hole" wich is a very big reverb type. This Reverb will also get a shimmer feature, I will do a video soon
Great, added thanks. I didn't know about that reverb, sorta why I started the thread - useful to have all the info in one place.
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simmo75 wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:23 am Will this be a free upgrade or grace period?
I’m thinking of buying Avenger this week.
There is a sale on PluginBoutique for Avenger that is likely ending in a FEW HOURS. It should cost you less to get Avenger during this sale, even if you get the Avenger 2 upgrade. If you buy Avenger 2 directly, it will cost mroe.
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FakeNatty wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:39 am
simmo75 wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:23 am Will this be a free upgrade or grace period?
I’m thinking of buying Avenger this week.
There is a sale on PluginBoutique for Avenger that is likely ending in a FEW HOURS. It should cost you less to get Avenger during this sale, even if you get the Avenger 2 upgrade. If you buy Avenger 2 directly, it will cost mroe.
Thanks.

Does Avenger have MPE?
Also, NKS?

Seems I have a couple of hours to make a decision… :)

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When does Avenger 2 coming out?

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Lbdunequest wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 6:37 am When does Avenger 2 coming out?
late 2022 / beginning 2023

their words, not mine
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simmo75 wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 6:07 am Thanks.

Does Avenger have MPE?
Also, NKS?

Seems I have a couple of hours to make a decision… :)
I dont sufficiently know about neither to influence your final decision. MPE likely not yet, but they might do it in the future.

:shrug: :shrug: :shrug:

if enough people talk about MPE, they might add it. I have Avenger but dont have any MPE devices, and I would like MPE support too.
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This is really a good time to be involved in synths. This Avenger 2 looks like a beast. It'll definitely have powerful company with the upcoming likes of Zebra 3, Synthmaster 3, Blue III, etc.
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All these V2 features looks absolute fantastic... looking very forward :hyper:
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Wonder if they can add something as simple as making the multisample player thingies loop with crossfaded start/end, so that looping is actually useful and you don't get nastiness every time a loop repeats and instead can create seemless loops.

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.. and I'll add here again the wish for the shaper modules EQ setting to have the EQ nodes properly track with keyboard tracking (aka just like the filters, over the whole range). It's a very little feature but would be infinitely useful.
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