How to play binaural audio on stereo speakers?!

[wakax]

anyone knows
How to play binaural audio on stereo speakers
and to sound good/fat/meaty ? (not phasey and weird)
is there any convertor or technique ?!
thanks.

[Unaspected]

It's only going to work with perfect speaker placement in relation to the listener.

[planetearth]

anyone knows
How to play binaural audio on stereo speakers
and to sound good/fat/meaty ? (not phasey and weird)
is there any convertor or technique ?!
thanks.

Short answer: Hold the speakers up to your ears.

Long answer: Binaural audio only really "works" (read: sounds right) in headphones because the head in between the 'phones keeps the audio from the left side/speaker from mixing with audio from the other, and vice-versa. The end result is that what's supposed to be heard in one ear is not also heard a few milliseconds later in the other ear, which is what happens if you play audio over speakers. Binaural audio also doesn't sound right if any of the audio is bounced off the walls, floor, or ceiling of the room (or anything in it), or if any ambience is added by it being played over speakers in a room.

Hope that helps.

Steve

[wakax]

Steve:
yes BUT- I've found this:
http://pspatialaudio.com/choices9.htm
http://pspatialaudio.com/blumlein_delta.htm

Anyone who has heard binaural stereo recordings on headphones knows how amazing the stereo effect can be! However, if binaural recordings are played over loudspeakers, the effects are very disappointing.
Stereo Lab Tonmeister and Audiophile include digital signal processing which transforms the binaural signals into signals suitable for loudspeakers. the results can be astonishing, with the stereo image coming from way beyond the loudspeaker baseline. One famous Sennheiser recording from the nineteen-seventies (in which a German girl whispers in your ear!), reproduces - over loudspeakers - so that the voice appears to comes from a position centimetres from your ear!

[Unaspected]

DearVR Pro worked exceptionally well with my setup in this regard - able to place sounds behind my head without use of headphones. Not as impressive as true binaural recordings reproduced using headphones but impressive enough to part with some cash.

No need for speakers to be placed either side of head. Just standard positioning: Equilateral triangle with tweeters at ear height and angled straight at the ears. Slight change of sitting position and the illusion is destroyed. And, naturally, these effects will change signal phase.

It might also be useful to note that - specifically with DearVR Pro - I found that applying motion to the sound allowed for a more accurate localisation effect, rather than using static positioning.

I should also add that it's not just your external hardware but your internal, bodily hardware as well - we all hear differently.

[planetearth]

Steve:
yes BUT- I've found this:
http://pspatialaudio.com/choices9.htm
http://pspatialaudio.com/blumlein_delta.htm

Anyone who has heard binaural stereo recordings on headphones knows how amazing the stereo effect can be! However, if binaural recordings are played over loudspeakers, the effects are very disappointing.
Stereo Lab Tonmeister and Audiophile include digital signal processing which transforms the binaural signals into signals suitable for loudspeakers. the results can be astonishing, with the stereo image coming from way beyond the loudspeaker baseline. One famous Sennheiser recording from the nineteen-seventies (in which a German girl whispers in your ear!), reproduces - over loudspeakers - so that the voice appears to comes from a position centimetres from your ear!

The results from "transforming the binaural signals into signals suitable for loudspeakers" will vary based upon the original content, the loudspeakers and the person's hearing frequency range.

Much of the "transformation" is done with the high-frequency content. If that isn't heard properly -- either because the loudspeakers can't reproduce it properly or because the listener's hearing is damaged above 8 or 9 kHz, then the results will be far from "astonishing".

There's no magic to this -- it's just physics. And while you can get close to reproducing the sound over loudspeakers, you simply can't reproduce it the way it was intended if your left ear is hearing what was intended for the right ear only (and, again, vice-versa). And if you're also hearing ambient reflections, you will hear issues with phasing and other anomalies. Finally, if your hearing is damaged and you're not hearing the high-frequency information (which tells the brain where a sound is coming from) -- or you're not hearing it as well as you should -- then the "binaural" and/or "3D" effect collapses, either to a degree, or fully. If it does, you're basically left with "stereo" with weird phasing issues. This is because frequencies which weren't meant to exist in the same space at almost the same time (or at the same time, but out of phase) are now existing in the same space at almost the same time.

The recordings done in the '70s and '80s weren't done in quite the same way they're done now. I remember Disney's EPCOT had a demonstration of this, back in the early '90s. You didn't necessarily need to wear headphones (though it helped), because Disney had spent considerable effort and money arranging the loudspeakers so that if you stood exactly where they told you to stand, the speakers which were mounted at ear level and pointing directly at your ears from either side -- could convey the "binaural" effect.

I'm not trying to dampen your enthusiasm for this. If you want to try it, go for it. But even if you can get something close to it to work for you, I wouldn't expect it to work for someone else -- especially if you deliver the audio recording as an .MP3 or over a streaming service.

Steve

[wakax]

Steve: thank you. it helped.
I wasnt clear I guess what I wanted...
I dont want to simulate or translate binaural to speakers. I just want to make my binaural recs (sennheiser ambeo smart) to sound better/meatier on speakers - stereo-ish convertion is good enough. if the depth illusion goes away - so be it.
My final goal - if possible - to mix (use in the same project) binaural and non-binaural (AB, XY) field recording with decent results.

[wakax]

Unaspected:
thnx. I will test DearVr pro today.

[burkek]

I know this is an old thread, but hey, I just posed my first video whereby the audio was recorded with a binaural head I made.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8qB2FR7jsI

First use of my home made binaural head to record sound for this 4K nature relaxation video. The head has soft silicone ears with ear canals and replicates the human ear perfectly. Highly sensitive microphones were placed at the bottom of the ear canal. You will hear sound in a 360 degree arc around you and can pinpoint planes flying over your head. Wear headphones. Recorded with a Tascam DR-60DMkII.

#binaural #Sound #nature #fieldrecording #water #Monday #MondayMood #MondayMorning #relax #headphones #3D

[Funky40]

what they do here is just a sort of modulation with sayed frequenzy, ......right ? or am i wrong ?
( hope its still on topic and not a hijack )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHv932B8PFA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA6nSQawROM