Could you go in to more detail, on your second paragraph please.? Any real-world examples..? I'd love to report findings to Steiny, so they could see where to improve.skijumptoes wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:27 am Cubase chord track is a lot deeper than that in S1, as it integrates with the chord pads, variaudio and MIDI note colouring. On top of that, the theory behind it is more solid from a compositional perspective.
However, the polyphonic detection in S1 so much better. Something I really love about S1 is if playing capo on guitar it will read the chords much better than Cubase or Scaler. A Big help for bass/keys.
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Do you know why it works for me? It's the fact that I can always see the mixer and my workflow is, as it has been for 40 years, mixer-centric. That's as simple as it is. It's why I didn't mind Cubase, either.EnGee wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:49 amAnyway, I don't see a big advantage for your workflow in using another DAW other than S1. S1 has a great simplicity and to the point. It has the best features from Cubase and Logic IMO and it could gather them well. It also has some unique features. I should spend more time with it really as I know most of it already
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I understand. I like S1 and old Cubase mixer because I just used to press F3 when I want to check the volumes (press it again to toggle it off). Bitwig has it as well by pressing M while it's X with Logic.
The annoying mixers are in current Cubase and Live. I can't see the full mixer while in the arrangement. Cubase did two versions of the mixer, one with tabs and the other full mixer needs it's monitor alone!
In Live I can't see at glance the devices and inserts (session view) of all tracks. So, for one monitor setup my ideal DAWs are S1, Logic and Bitwig. Although, I can still compose pleasantly with Cubase and Live, no big problem, the mixer easy to view design is important convenience.
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S1, Logic and Bitwig all share a very similar UI/UX
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I didn't listen to it and maybe I am wrong but it seems like not many on KVR really like any sort of rap.
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I find that using workspaces is the best method with Cubase, rather than manually toggling views on/off.
I have a full time-line view, then a sectioned view with channel strip an mixer on one side and arrangement on other. And then the third view is a timeline/full mixer split. There's a fourth which I use for MIDI/Variaudio edits but tend not to use it that so much.
You can get to them via single key commands or bind to a controller.
Because you can run Studio One fullscreen and there's not horrible title bars as in Cubase, I don't feel that I need to manage screenspaces so much - it's pretty efficient out the box for me.
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Yes workspaces (and screensets in Logic) are for recalling Windows setup that you have already recorded then you can toggle between the views.skijumptoes wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:49 amI find that using workspaces is the best method with Cubase, rather than manually toggling views on/off.
I have a full time-line view, then a sectioned view with channel strip an mixer on one side and arrangement on other. And then the third view is a timeline/full mixer split. There's a fourth which I use for MIDI/Variaudio edits but tend not to use it that so much.
You can get to them via single key commands or bind to a controller.
Because you can run Studio One fullscreen and there's not horrible title bars as in Cubase, I don't feel that I need to manage screenspaces so much - it's pretty efficient out the box for me.
It is an old way I remember learning it in Logic 4 and 5 in 1999 or 2000 (not sure). At that time it is necessary due to the size of the monitor and resolution, but now I don't think it is used that much. Anyway, my projects are not big, so tracks and small view of the mixer can fit on one window. Like you, I prefer S1 (and Logic/Bitwig) ergonomics in viewing the workspace.
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That's because it is all terrible.
I hate that idea. I do everything from the same view. I never toggle views on/off, I like to be able to see everything that's going on at once and to be able to get at things as easily as possible.skijumptoes wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:49 amI find that using workspaces is the best method with Cubase, rather than manually toggling views on/off.
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