Studio One 6

[kevvvvv]

Thanks SLiC.
I appreciate the encouragement.
I'll investigate your points further.
I'd like to upgrade as a matter of course, but with my cloud stack costs ever growing I'm chary of automatically signing up "cos I'm supposed to".
Eveyone's trying to skin me for an upgrade buck.
Cheers again

[Fornicras]

Is there a way to make the title bar beautiful or better?
I am talking about this ugly white section:

https://i.imgur.com/atTAVIl.png

It looks ugly and out of place, now that V6 did a facelift I hoped that they fixed this but no.

FL Studio and Adobe handle this beautifully for instance.

I know Shift + F hides that section but then you lose all of the additional menus, and also when you Shift + F, S1 does not allow any other software to be on top (Splice for example) and it's unusable that way.

[SLiC]

Thanks SLiC.
I appreciate the encouragement.
I'll investigate your points further.
I'd like to upgrade as a matter of course, but with my cloud stack costs ever growing I'm chary of automatically signing up "cos I'm supposed to".
Eveyone's trying to skin me for an upgrade buck.
Cheers again

No worries, and no hurry- new launches always have bugs, a 6.1 normally follows quite soon as do the sales

[gentleclockdivider]

What's bugging me the most in studio one is that they never fix long standing issues in the instruments.
Comes to mind .
-samples loaded in sampler or impact magically doubles the sample file size as if some internal upsampling is applied .
-state filter in high pass mode(sample one xt -impact xt) sounds like a bandreject mode , almost no low end is filtered when set to high cutoff point .
DO they even respond to the reported issues ? ,ofcourse they don't

[skijumptoes]

Does it allow a midi part on track 2 to pitch a vocal track on track 1, using another synth plug as the carrier?

Studio One 6 allows you to sidechain instrument tracks - so yes, can do it on third party plugins too so that Arturia Vocoder works as expected now. Very simple to setup.

I read MPC users being pleased that you can sample audio into the hardware via the MPC plugin too - again, by bringing audio signal in via sidechain input on the instrument track.

[Aliens]

I read the vocoder bit in the manual.
The sidechain works to use another vsti as carrier, but if you drop a vocoder on a vocal track, you can't route a midi track to it as the vocoder doesn't appear in the midi tracks drop down.

Pity they couldn't have copied the mixcraft approach.

[skijumptoes]

The sidechain works to use another vsti as carrier, but if you drop a vocoder on a vocal track, you can't route a midi track to it as the vocoder doesn't appear in the midi tracks drop down.

Well, you can 'kinda' if you use an instrument track - If you load up an instance of Mai Tai with the init patch, you can select it's output into the audio insert of the vocoder. Of course sidechains are audio signals, but it maybe gives you a similar workflow?

[gentleclockdivider]

I read the vocoder bit in the manual.
The sidechain works to use another vsti as carrier, but if you drop a vocoder on a vocal track, you can't route a midi track to it as the vocoder doesn't appear in the midi tracks drop down.

Pity they couldn't have copied the mixcraft approach.

Hmm weird , so is the vocoder an effect or a synth in studio one ?
Lets’ assume it’s an effect and you drop it an insert on an audio track.
Your audio track either a vocal or a drumbeat etc… is your modulator ,
Then how would one control the internal carrier synth over midi since it has no midi input ?

[nusound mind]

Here is an other (great !) example in a larger project with ALL PLUGINS DISABLED except 1 (stereo delta on track 70) which is enabled and bypass.

Listen to the two audio : one is phasey because some of the vocal FX buses are out of sync despite NO enabled plugin on it, all tracks and buses are 100% dry with no effect enabled...

I've never noticed any of these issues (by ear, at least) when printing. Do you see phase issues and so forth in the Project page in the mastering ... phase? If you use the Project page, that is. Maybe it's a Mac thing, I use S1 on a PC. Mac's seem to have the lion's share of troubles when it comes to Studio One.

Going to reiterate these two questions as now I'm curious about this; can you identify the apparent phase issues and PDC problems on the Project page / when mastering?

and b) Are you on a Mac? Is this problem known to effect PC's as well? I use sidechaining and sends pretty frequently plus the Fabfilter mixing bundle so this is something I now want to keep an eye on. Want to keep using FF but I have other plugins I can use in their place if it only occurs w/ certain plugins.

[Resonant- Serpent]

Here is an other (great !) example in a larger project with ALL PLUGINS DISABLED except 1 (stereo delta on track 70) which is enabled and bypass.

Listen to the two audio : one is phasey because some of the vocal FX buses are out of sync despite NO enabled plugin on it, all tracks and buses are 100% dry with no effect enabled...

I've never noticed any of these issues (by ear, at least) when printing. Do you see phase issues and so forth in the Project page in the mastering ... phase? If you use the Project page, that is. Maybe it's a Mac thing, I use S1 on a PC. Mac's seem to have the lion's share of troubles when it comes to Studio One.

Going to reiterate these two questions as now I'm curious about this; can you identify the apparent phase issues and PDC problems on the Project page / when mastering?

and b) Are you on a Mac? Is this problem known to effect PC's as well? I use sidechaining and sends pretty frequently plus the Fabfilter mixing bundle so this is something I now want to keep an eye on. Want to keep using FF but I have other plugins I can use in their place if it only occurs w/ certain plugins.

This is the response user molimoh received about the issue that was posted on the S1 forum:

ust got a reply from Presonus Support:
"...f you are referring to certain 3rd party plugins, then we are aware of the issue and our Development Team are investigating the issue. We do take these reports seriously. But the issue in is the hands of the QA Team. Unfortunately, we are not authorized to provide you with any timeframes for this issue being fixed. We thank you for your patience while we look into it.
Should the issue be addressed in a future build of Studio One 6, then you will see it referenced in the release notes for that build."

So, it appears that it's a real issue. I know that I had some weird things happening while mixing in Studio One 5.5, but could never pin it down. It was like some of the frequencies were smearing, and thought it might be phase issues, but had no proof. What I did know is that the exact same projects recreated in Cubase 11 didn't have the problem, and I continued working in Cubase.

I'm surprised more people aren't alarmed by this. I don't think it's a new problem.

[BONES]

DO they even respond to the reported issues ? ,ofcourse they don't

Rubbish. I'm having problems with one of my Ujam plugins and I had a pretty much realtime back and forth with support last night. We got to the root of the problem pretty quickly. It was probably the most productive support response I've ever had with anyone. OTOH, Ujam are plodding along with the issue, being not much help at all.

[nusound mind]

Here is an other (great !) example in a larger project with ALL PLUGINS DISABLED except 1 (stereo delta on track 70) which is enabled and bypass.

Listen to the two audio : one is phasey because some of the vocal FX buses are out of sync despite NO enabled plugin on it, all tracks and buses are 100% dry with no effect enabled...

I've never noticed any of these issues (by ear, at least) when printing. Do you see phase issues and so forth in the Project page in the mastering ... phase? If you use the Project page, that is. Maybe it's a Mac thing, I use S1 on a PC. Mac's seem to have the lion's share of troubles when it comes to Studio One.

Going to reiterate these two questions as now I'm curious about this; can you identify the apparent phase issues and PDC problems on the Project page / when mastering?

and b) Are you on a Mac? Is this problem known to effect PC's as well? I use sidechaining and sends pretty frequently plus the Fabfilter mixing bundle so this is something I now want to keep an eye on. Want to keep using FF but I have other plugins I can use in their place if it only occurs w/ certain plugins.

This is the response user molimoh received about the issue that was posted on the S1 forum:

ust got a reply from Presonus Support:
"...f you are referring to certain 3rd party plugins, then we are aware of the issue and our Development Team are investigating the issue. We do take these reports seriously. But the issue in is the hands of the QA Team. Unfortunately, we are not authorized to provide you with any timeframes for this issue being fixed. We thank you for your patience while we look into it.
Should the issue be addressed in a future build of Studio One 6, then you will see it referenced in the release notes for that build."

So, it appears that it's a real issue. I know that I had some weird things happening while mixing in Studio One 5.5, but could never pin it down. It was like some of the frequencies were smearing, and thought it might be phase issues, but had no proof. What I did know is that the exact same projects recreated in Cubase 11 didn't have the problem, and I continued working in Cubase.

I'm surprised more people aren't alarmed by this. I don't think it's a new problem.

Alright thanks for the response. I'm still curious what any problem material would look like in the project page where you can see if anything is out of phase, etc. Anyways I'll monitor further if this is an issue on my end from now on. Any potential timing (and phasing) issues are worth paying attention to. It's the reason I left FL Studio years ago and that was the best decision I could've made in retrospect. S1 has been ideal for me so far.

[SLiC]

DO they even respond to the reported issues ? ,ofcourse they don't

Rubbish. I'm having problems with one of my Ujam plugins and I had a pretty much realtime back and forth with support last night. We got to the root of the problem pretty quickly. It was probably the most productive support response I've ever had with anyone. OTOH, Ujam are plodding along with the issue, being not much help at all.

Ditto…I have issues with the optimised Presonus plugins with i9 processors and had almost a real time exchange of half a dozen emails with support last night.

[jamcat]

So does Studio One 6 not have a channel icon for the ride cymbal?
It looks like there is one for hihat and a few for overheads, but no ride.

I understand wanting to stick only to drums that you mic, but people do sometimes spot mic the ride.

[SLiC]

I see toolbox has been updated for V6…anyone using it?
https://kulturesounds.com/