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chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:25 pm

I wonder how many of the moaners really have a need for that Spectral Suite.

eerie_audio · Post by **eerie_audio** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:39 pm

chk071 wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:25 pm I wonder how many of the moaners really have a need for that Spectral Suite.

I think you're missing the point.

It's not about that, it's about standing by your standards and principles.

Ultimately, making and keeping the majority of your customers happy, because without them, you are just another unsupported company trying to make it through the struggle.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:46 pm

eerie_audio wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:39 pm It's not about that, it's about standing by your standards and principles.

Which are those exactly?

Do you imagine businesses as some kind of community management systems?

Just like you in your day job, they have to make sure to make a living. That's their "standards and principles".

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:50 pm

Trancit wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 11:40 am
dellboy wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 11:13 am So Bitwig did the right thing to make their customers happy. Well done Bitwig.

https://www.bitwig.com/stories/to-our-community-218/

Well done Bitwig???

Yes, well done Bitwig.

Bitwig did not rob a bank (way to exaggerate there) nor is there any clear agreement from people who know about these things (EULA's and such) that they did anything illegal at all.

What Bitwig did was backtrack on a collective understanding that most users had (legally accurate or not) and now Bitwig corrected that and they re-affirmed the existing previous agreement which is what most users wanted.

Problem solved.

jens · Post by **jens** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:53 pm

chk071 wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:46 pm
eerie_audio wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:39 pm It's not about that, it's about standing by your standards and principles.
Which are those exactly?

Do you imagine businesses as some kind of community management systems?

Just like you in your day job, they have to make sure to make a living. That's their "standards and principles".

Dude, did you not already post more than enough bollocks in this thread?

What about sneaking off in silence and hoping people will forget your nonsense in the not-to-distant future...

revvy · Post by **revvy** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:55 pm

Absolutely.

“Small group of moaners” or as actual Bitwig referred to them “our community”

My cat has got more self awareness.

WatchTheGuitar · Post by **WatchTheGuitar** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 4:08 pm

chk071 wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:25 pm I wonder how many of the moaners really have a need for that Spectral Suite.

I don't know. You seem to be a moaner so do you need it?

revvy · Post by **revvy** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 4:12 pm

Well done BW for apparently not breaking the law!!

bharris22 · Post by **bharris22** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 4:12 pm

As a non-Bitwig user (yet), it does seem like this was a strange hill for the company to die on. Aren't there boatloads of multiband spectral processors in VST format? Are these devices so special that they warranted what appears to be a pretty blatant violation of their own EULA?

I have no dog in this hunt - just trying to understand what happened.

syntonica · Post by **syntonica** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 4:16 pm

jens wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:53 pm
chk071 wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:46 pm
eerie_audio wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:39 pm It's not about that, it's about standing by your standards and principles.
Which are those exactly?

Do you imagine businesses as some kind of community management systems?

Just like you in your day job, they have to make sure to make a living. That's their "standards and principles".

Dude, did you not already post more than enough bollocks in this thread?

What about sneaking off in silence and hoping people will forget your nonsense in the not-to-distant future...

So, you got... nothing?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 4:19 pm

WatchTheGuitar wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 4:08 pm
chk071 wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:25 pm I wonder how many of the moaners really have a need for that Spectral Suite.
I don't know. You seem to be a moaner so do you need it?

I don't moan. I point out the obvious.

Bartone · Post by **Bartone** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 4:21 pm

bharris22 wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 4:12 pm As a non-Bitwig user (yet), it does seem like this was a strange hill for the company to die on. Aren't there boatloads of multiband spectral processors in VST format? Are these devices so special that they warranted what appears to be a pretty blatant violation of their own EULA?

I have no dog in this hunt - just trying to understand what happened.

+1

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 4:24 pm

bharris22 wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 4:12 pm As a non-Bitwig user (yet), it does seem like this was a strange hill for the company to die on. Aren't there boatloads of multiband spectral processors in VST format? Are these devices so special that they warranted what appears to be a pretty blatant violation of their own EULA?

Could you point out the exact violation of their EULA?

WatchTheGuitar · Post by **WatchTheGuitar** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 4:28 pm

Do your own homework. Why don’t you point out how they weren’t in violation of their EULA?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Tue Oct 11, 2022 4:31 pm

WatchTheGuitar wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 4:28 pm Do your own homework.

That's not how things work (apart from that I wasn't talking to you really). You claim something, you should elaborate on it. Why is it my work to comb through the EULA, when someone else says that Bitwig is violating it?

Show the part of the EULA they're violating. Or shut up.

switch from bitwig to another daw