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Septimon wrote: Sat May 02, 2020 5:13 pm Something like this?
https://www.amazona.de/test-soundforce- ... e-repro-1/
Someone made the right comment...

"For 329 €, I already get a Behringer Pro-1."

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chk071 wrote: Sat May 02, 2020 5:33 pm
Septimon wrote: Sat May 02, 2020 5:13 pm Something like this?
https://www.amazona.de/test-soundforce- ... e-repro-1/
Someone made the right comment...

"For 329 €, I already get a Behringer Pro-1."
If Behringer was making these, it would cost 50 euros.
Also, this controller is not much different from the Behringer Pro-1,
it doesn't utilise the digital advantage - being able to change presets and see the values on the controller, like in Nord Lead 3.

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roman.i wrote: Sat May 02, 2020 6:38 pm If Behringer was making these, it would cost 50 euros.
No way. :D

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declassified wrote: Sat May 02, 2020 3:45 pm
whyterabbyt wrote: Sat May 02, 2020 3:14 pm Plugins dont talk to the outside world at all. They dont see hardware devices, and they dont access them directly.
A plug-in can talk directly to the OS, at least on macOS. I haven't tried it on Windows, but would expect it to work there as well. It can check which MIDI hardware is connected, open MIDI inputs and outputs and send/receive MIDI directly from them just like a normal application, without help from the host.
Yeah, and that's basically selective quoting.

The bit where I already addressed this was this:
whyterabbyt wrote:To change that, you'd need to add very nonstandard stuff to the plugin, stuff that would probably conflict with the host.
Im aware that there are plugins which have done this, but their problem was always 'ownership' conflicts on MIDI ports, because its not intrinsic to any plugin API.
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Septimon wrote: Sat May 02, 2020 5:13 pm Something like this?
https://www.amazona.de/test-soundforce- ... e-repro-1/
Very cool! probably, very expensive, as well! :neutral:

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Maybe something like this ?

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how many different ones will you need for the average track? or do you only use one soft synth for everything?
then another for each fx unit?

where does it end?
:ud:

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although, behringer are doing it the other way, they did announce plug in versions of all their hardware synths, so just hold on till they catch up on the release schedule.
:ud:

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roman.i wrote: Sat May 02, 2020 2:58 pm Think of a Novation Peak, but the sound engine is in the plugin, and the hardware is only a controller.
Novations ReMOTE SL keyboard controllers have templates built-in for many popular software synths ...

Novation V-Station 1
Novation V-Station 2
Novation V-Station 3
Novation Bass Station
Native instruments FM7
Native instruments Pro53 1
Native instruments Pro53 2
Native instruments Battery 2
Native instruments B4
Native instruments Kontakt 2
G-Force impOSCar 1
G-Force impOSCar 2
G-Force Oddity 1
G-Force Oddity 2
G-Force Minimonsta 1
G-Force Minimonsta 2
Korg MS20
Korg Polysix
Korg LegacyCell
Arturia CS-80V 1
Arturia CS-80V 2
Arturia ARP2600V 1
Arturia ARP2600V 2
Linplug Albino 1
Linplug Albino 2
Cakewalk z3ta+ 1
Cakewalk z3ta+ 2
Cakewalk z3ta+ 3
Steinberg HALion
reFX Vanguard 1
reFX Vanguard 2
reFX Vanguard 3

It's real easy to setup up a user template for any other soft synth (or hardware) not included in the list.

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The Roland System 8/1 work like that, the plugins from Roland legendary series respond 1:1 to the hardware controls, they even have a GUI that follows the hardware layout.

Some other plugins can be mapped through MIDI learn to hardware synths, The system 8 does well for Diva or any other JP8/Juno emulation.

What would be needed to take this concept further would be a way to remap the controls on the hardware, also for oscillator wave and endless encoder would be better since most modern synths have way more than 5.
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thecontrolcentre wrote: Sun Oct 16, 2022 4:09 pm
roman.i wrote: Sat May 02, 2020 2:58 pm Think of a Novation Peak, but the sound engine is in the plugin, and the hardware is only a controller.
Novations ReMOTE SL keyboard controllers have templates built-in for many popular software synths ...

Novation V-Station 1
Novation V-Station 2
Novation V-Station 3
Novation Bass Station
Native instruments FM7
Native instruments Pro53 1
Native instruments Pro53 2
Native instruments Battery 2
Native instruments B4
Native instruments Kontakt 2
G-Force impOSCar 1
G-Force impOSCar 2
G-Force Oddity 1
G-Force Oddity 2
G-Force Minimonsta 1
G-Force Minimonsta 2
Korg MS20
Korg Polysix
Korg LegacyCell
Arturia CS-80V 1
Arturia CS-80V 2
Arturia ARP2600V 1
Arturia ARP2600V 2
Linplug Albino 1
Linplug Albino 2
Cakewalk z3ta+ 1
Cakewalk z3ta+ 2
Cakewalk z3ta+ 3
Steinberg HALion
reFX Vanguard 1
reFX Vanguard 2
reFX Vanguard 3

It's real easy to setup up a user template for any other soft synth (or hardware) not included in the list.
Did the amount of templates diminish over the years? I think I only had one MIDI controller which has 20 templates overall, and, most of the newer ones have much less than that.

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chk071 wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:10 pm Did the amount of templates diminish over the years?
I don't think so ... I copied the list from the Novation site, and it matches what my ReMote 25SL came installed with (in 2005). There's space for a few user presets too.

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Damien.Garrido wrote: Sun Oct 16, 2022 2:36 pm Maybe something like this ?
They look great, especially Electra ... both unoptanium at the moment :ud:

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The only thing missing from this bad boy is aftertouch but I have my Erae for that. Honestly, this seems like the controller I've been after for the past 20 years.

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I'm eyeing that MPK controller as well, seems pretty nice... for cheap. :tu:

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