Cubase Pro 12 pleasantly surprised

[HREQ]

I still have yet to use a template. I seen those orchestra templates with 300 instruments all sorted into folders and every track preloaded with kontakt instruments all disabled to save RAM/CPU, then he goes to track and hits shortcut key to enable it instantly starts playing, looked very inspiring. He was able to make a orchestra song in a few hours or so just recording and playing stuff in...

I never tried one yet. I seem to be able to just get the flow going adding instruments and routing as I go. But my projects do get messy lol
I should seriously try using a template once with all the FX / Groups and standard compressors preloaded into mix channels... Seems like it'd be a lot less "messy" and faster to work with. Like presetup 8 group channels that go into stereo out, 8 FX sends for (1/4 delay, 1/8 delay, slapback, chorus, reverb etcs) and have my mixbus preloaded with a chain, each bus preloaded, and each channel of instruments preloaded with standard eq's,compressors
Think I'll try this out today actually lol

[pixel85]

I started using templates when my projects began to be very different. From video adverts (100% ITB) to multichannel hardware projects. Redoing all send and groups + effects, sometimes twice per day would be a huge waste of time.
When I was doing just music for myself, templates were useless to me. I prefered blank canvas.

[Igro]

Could you tell me if Cubase has a patcher similar to FL Studio and Studio One (visual routing)?

no

That's a big no for me then. Hope they will implement this.

[kritikon]

I'm the same with templates - they make sense to me but I always found they get in the way. I rarely end up with anything remotely similar in terms of set up from one track to the next. I don't compress everything or even use Eq that much, so filling up channels with plugins is not useful either. Groups - I don't always group the same things together, sometimes don't group at all. Master FX are usually different from track to tracks also...there were 3-4 tracks on the trot I used Ozone but since then I'v started using different FX. I love the latest Cubase Squasher, but I doubt very much I'll use it on every track.

I really do like that Supervision thing though. I presume it was in Pro before, but not Artist (def wasn't in 10.5) and it covers every type of analysing I'm likely to want. Worth the upgrade just for that and Squasher IMO. And....just a few little tweaks and improvements here and there, nothing major but I like the way it looks and works more with C12. I only yesterday had a proper look at some of the sets included with Halion etc - there's some great stuff in there. Way better than I was expecting...might make me use it more, especially now the sampler track is so much better.

[Danilo Villanova]

Sampler track is amazing, one of the best integrated samplers. Adding fx to the tracks is also faster than any other daw I’ve used. S1 and Reaper’s samplers are a joke and I’ve started working in genres where I really need one. Variaudio is crazy also! Audio to MIDI and to chord track appears to work great with complex harmony.

I’m doing the trial now, hopefully I can afford it in a month lol

[kritikon]

If you're thinking about buying it, have a serious look at Artist vs Pro. I used the full Cubase for donkeys years, took a break, and when I came back I actually realized I only used a fraction of Cubase. Artist gives you most of the same day-to-day stuff as Pro. There are definitely differences, but depending on how you work, there might not be much in Pro that you actually need. I saved myself $500 by buying Artist and have never once regretted it. In fact Artist is still packed full of stuff I never use. It's bloody powerful for 1/2 the price...it seems like the differences between Artist & Pro are getting smaller. Sometimes the go-faster stripes don't actually make you go faster....

[T-CM11]

Sampler track is amazing, one of the best integrated samplers.

I'd call it long overdue. FL Studio's had it since the 90s.

That's why I started with Fruityloops (after dabbling with DOS trackers). While other computer DAWs/sequencers needed expensive hardware, Fruityloops had a built-in sampler.

I'd love for Cubase to have a better (integrated) pattern-based sequencer too!

[chk071]

If you're thinking about buying it, have a serious look at Artist vs Pro. I used the full Cubase for donkeys years, took a break, and when I came back I actually realized I only used a fraction of Cubase. Artist gives you most of the same day-to-day stuff as Pro. There are definitely differences, but depending on how you work, there might not be much in Pro that you actually need. I saved myself $500 by buying Artist and have never once regretted it. In fact Artist is still packed full of stuff I never use. It's bloody powerful for 1/2 the price...it seems like the differences between Artist & Pro are getting smaller. Sometimes the go-faster stripes don't actually make you go faster....

Yes, I think Artist has quite a good feature set which should suit most people.

[HREQ]

There's so many neat features in cubase TBH, If you have melodyne installed it works just like variaudio too in the piano roll editor
I keybinded ctrl+r and shift+r to "render in place with current settings" and "reverse track" to quickly do those things
there's a harmony generator that references chord track and a vocal audio aligner to align various takes together
and cubase multiple comping tool and track versions are so useful.
you can sing same line on repeat 10 times, then click the drop down list and cut/sellect best takes and comp them together,
then do it again on a different track version decide which you like best
or just take both takes and "auto audio align" them in cubase natively, then fix with variaudio
also super easy to do harmonies in variaudio too, or use the generator
if your ever doing orchestra or guitar stuff the expression maps articulation switching is such a refreshing way to work compared to midi articulation switching lol, just gotto download other ppls expression maps.

cubase has so many useful features like those that just work, im not sure other daws have
oh and all the scales you can lock track too and work in, and switching your piano roll to show you "ok notes" within chord track and stuff

so many features...

[Trancit]

One question though:

For people who are usually not recording in automation but clicking the points in... is there any quicker way than having to activate write automation in the plugins GUI, press play, wiggle the knob etc...???

Isn´t there perhaps a key command like "Show/create automation lane for last touched parameter"???

[pbelchamber]

Not sure if this is exactly what you are asking for, but there is a preference in the automation panel (go to Project/Automation Panel - click settings tab, or alternatively access it from the Global Automation Mode in the top toolbar if you have enabled it) called "Reveal Parameter on Write", which automatically opens the relevant automation track if you write to it.

[Serhii Kot]

Isn´t there perhaps a key command like "Show/create automation lane for last touched parameter"???

No, without enabling writing mode, you can not open desired lane by a key command. Many years this is a feature request. Like in Studio One, Alt+A(Option+A) will open automation lane for a last touched parameter.

[Trancit]

Isn´t there perhaps a key command like "Show/create automation lane for last touched parameter"???

No, without enabling writing mode, you can not open desired lane by a key command. Many years this is a feature request. Like in Studio One, Alt+A(Option+A) will open automation lane for a last touched parameter.

I can imagine people like to have a faster way... I mean atm it´s ridiculous the amount of actions just to automate a parameter:
- open GUI
- enable write
- press play
- wiggle parameter
- press stop
- disable write
- select the points from the wiggle
- delete the points

while in S1 or Reaper
- open GUI
- wiggle parameter
- hit key command

That´s nearly 3 times more actions needed in Cubase... that´s even a lot worse than FL Studio with automating 3rd party plugins...

One question more though:

Does Cubase show real values (like Hz values for Cutoff) for automation points for 3rd party VST3 plugins like Reaper or S1??
If yes, are you able to enter real values for automation points by typing in??

[dionenoid]

Does Cubase show real values (like Hz values for Cutoff) for automation points for 3rd party VST3 plugins like Reaper or S1??
If yes, are you able to enter real values for automation points by typing in??

Yes, if the dev properly implemented it.

You can enter real values by using the info line.

[dionenoid]

I can imagine people like to have a faster way... I mean atm it´s ridiculous the amount of actions just to automate a parameter:
- open GUI
- enable write
- press play
- wiggle parameter
- press stop
- disable write
- select the points from the wiggle
- delete the points

Open gui, right click on a parameter and select "show automation track".

(Doesn't work with every plugin tho, only with proper vst3's. But you can always assign parameters to Quick Controls if a plugin doesn't support direct showing of a parameter)

Or, you can always show an Automation track by just selecting it from the list of available parameters.

Or, use the Automation Panel, various settings there to try out.

Plus, you don't have to hit play and stop, you can just write along. Depends on the settings in the Automation Panel if an Automation track is shown immediately or not.