Is the Virtual Instrument era over?

[Propellerhands]

woohoo im a select few!!!

It's a hyperbole, obviously, since the enitre thread OP created is not in good faith, but you know what I mean.

[vurt]

Hardware synth worship is the False God of the Middle Class

ive never been so insulted

[vurt]

woohoo im a select few!!!

It's a hyperbole, obviously, since the enitre thread OP created is not in good faith, but you know what I mean.

too late, im select can't take it back!!!

[Robmobius]

It's like many other new(ish) digital products. People claimed that paper books were at an end with e-books. But some people will always love the feel of a book in their hand. Same with hardware, people will always be 'knob' fiddlers.

I have no attachment or interest in hardware whatsoever, not ever since digital synths/fx became so good. YMMV.

That said I still think hardware has a slight edge when it comes to sound over the softies. But the convenience of digital far outweighs that factor for me.

[vurt]

It's like many other new(ish) digital products. People claimed that paper books were at an end with e-books. But some people will always love the feel of a book in their hand. Same with hardware, people will always be 'knob' fiddlers.
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"the end is nigh! again!"

[elxsound]

I’ve said it before, but there is a momentum swing towards mobile devices and I don’t believe the next generations of users will be as dependent on computers.

I don’t really think the DAWless trend is anything but a blip in time… it’s a always going to be easier using a computer to finish, but the advancements in technology accompanied by affordability are an added bonus. Still, they are a luxury as opposed to major swing like mobile devices will have over traditional recording methods.

This is also an odd time. Pandemic business offerings and pandemic buyer decisions greatly skewed behaviors. It’ll become much clearer in the next couple years what people hold onto and unfortunately what business remain. We’ve seen some fold already and I expect more. There’s also some that expanded as business grew during the pandemic… it’s going to be something to watch.

Back to mobile devices… pricing of software is much lower on mobile devices and there’s an expectation there for what something should cost. I believe this is going to the larger reason people will favor mobile devices over computers.

[martinjuenke]

Hardware synth worship is the False God of the Middle Class

ive never been so insulted

Keep calm and carry on!
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[PAK]

The developers who were spreading that lie were the ones doing it. That’s hardly “most.”

I don't know about any of that, but I will say wrapping did seem more common earlier in the life of VST 3. However I'd agree it's not more than a small minority of devs currently. Frameworks, such as JUCE, likely played an important part in that though - which is what I went on to clarify regarding the gist of those remarks.

Even to my casual observation, it does seem that porting to VST 3 directly (no "helper" frameworks etc) has created more issues than many devs would've liked, and seems to have played at least some part regarding the rise in popularity of JUCE. Its users being the likes of Korg, UVI, Arturia? etc. It just seems like a lot more use it, to help them port to VST3 lately, than don't and roll their own dedicated VST3 solutions..

So, in that sense, VST3 seems to have become "just another format" to export to, rather than something instrument makers are excited to directly code to and utilize its features. You can blame the instrument makers, but eventually you have to wonder should Steinberg start questioning whether their own approach required adjusting. Though the mere existence of CLAP suggests (at least) some devs long ago considered it a lost cause..

[jamcat]

Well in the case of Arturia, at least, they only use JUCE for their GUI framework, as has always been the case, so there’s no lost VST3 functionality in their plugins.

The existence of CLAP actually just has to do with a certain two-Bit player trying to position themselves as a bigWig.

[zerocrossing]

Well in the case of Arturia, at least, they only use JUCE for their GUI framework, as has always been the case, so there’s no lost VST3 functionality in their plugins.

The existence of CLAP actually just has to do with a certain two-Bit player trying to position themselves as a bigWig.

That’s just a very Base assumption that has no real Logic. Please, be Reasonable.

[Etienne1973]

I’ve said it before, but there is a momentum swing towards mobile devices and I don’t believe the next generations of users will be as dependent on computers.
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pricing of software is much lower on mobile devices and there’s an expectation there for what something should cost. I believe this is going to the larger reason people will favor mobile devices over computers.

I see mobile devices and computers come together, melt into one and will finally be the same. So more mobile devices than desktop computers like you say.

From customer side lower prices for mobile device software mean growth. But can these prices stay so low? No, I think.

How does it look from developers' perspective? What's in it for them? Do they come in hordes for earning so much less?

[JockMcRonan]

All this chatter has made me realise it is time to dust the untouched HW that litters my workspace...I really need to list all that crap and divert the capital into something more necessary...That said, I bought Soundspot Union for $5.50 last night...the dusty Moog cost $2700....I'm just not seeing it.

[seangm]

This thread's era is over

[Uncle E]

Funny how Twitter, Reddit, Quora, etc, were all supposed to mean the end of forums. We need Meta because it’s impossible for us to have this conversation without seeing animated heads and torsos of each other.

[ramseysounds]

Hardware synth worship is the False God of the Middle Class

ive never been so insulted

Stick around