Cytomic 'The Glue' Compressor

[billcarroll]

Andy, which DAWs support the separate offline rendering modes offered in Oversampling Menu of The Glue?

[andy-cytomic]

Andy, which DAWs support the separate offline rendering modes offered in Oversampling Menu of The Glue?

All major DAWs I know of support reporting of offline render to plugins including: Ableton Live, Reaper, Logic, Cubase, and Pro Tools, and any software that does report offline mode via VST2/AU/AAX will also be supported.

[besaco]

I'm not a big fan of such sales as I feel it penalises anyone that has bought the product while not on sale. I will be offering discounts to existing customers on The Drop (when it is ready!), and I will also offer the same total discount saving to new customers if they buy both The Glue and The Drop at once.

“We keep our price point as low as possible all the time.” Sales are not made because people can’t afford it. Everyone can afford the cost of the tools. It’s a matter of priorities.
Sales are made to overcome psychological barriers that everyone has. No matter how well reasoned a decision someone has, the final act is always emotional. Making an offer you get:
- Getting people's attention, who would normally ignore you
- Favor the decision to people who are thinking of buying it
- Legalize people who are using a pirated versions
- Have more users and people in general talking about your product. This is free advertising
These are basic Marketing rules. And are not harming users, because you both win. They get a good product at a good price, and you get profit and impact.
By not offering discounts you are losing tons of money. But it’s your decision.
Have a nice day. Cheers.

[locojohn]

Unfortunately, ever since moving to a new m1 Mac a few months so, I have no other option but to wait for the ARM versions of The Glue/The Drop plugins to be released. These plugins are used all across my existing Ableton Live projects in VST format, but they are the only remaining plugins at the moment that still haven't been ported to the ARM platform, which is a shame!

[jules99]

Can't you use the AU-versions? They should still be working as they come with their own wrappers.

[locojohn]

I can use the AU versions, but I will lose all parameters settings and automation within the project.

[kmonkey]

“We keep our price point as low as possible all the time.” Sales are not made because people can’t afford it. Everyone can afford the cost of the tools. It’s a matter of priorities.
Sales are made to overcome psychological barriers that everyone has. No matter how well reasoned a decision someone has, the final act is always emotional. Making an offer you get:
- Getting people's attention, who would normally ignore you
- Favor the decision to people who are thinking of buying it
- Legalize people who are using a pirated versions
- Have more users and people in general talking about your product. This is free advertising
These are basic Marketing rules. And are not harming users, because you both win. They get a good product at a good price, and you get profit and impact.
By not offering discounts you are losing tons of money. But it’s your decision.
Have a nice day. Cheers.

How much of business companies do you run? And especially in Audio? Let me guess.

NONE!

Thought so.

So stay the f*** away from "marketing rules" and "I am spewing a free consultation for you" - instead go earn money and buy the tools you want.

You can pretend and twist this but at the end of the day, you are just cheap.

Instead of patronizing amazing developers and pretending to be some kind of superficial "KVR forum product specialist" just go away and work on something real.

You are welcome. Cheers.

[dayjob]

I can use the AU versions, but I will lose all parameters settings and automation within the project.

i've run into similar situations. if you launch live in rosetta mode.. load your project.. save a preset in the VST2 of the drop/glue.. cytomic's plug ins have their own internal preset library so you can open these presets in the AU w/o any trouble.

so, once you save the preset.. close live, open live in native mode.. load your project... drop the AU in place of the VST 2.. then copy/paste the automation. it's a bit of work but at least you'll be able to move forward w/your projects.

[dayjob]

I'm not a big fan of such sales as I feel it penalises anyone that has bought the product while not on sale. I will be offering discounts to existing customers on The Drop (when it is ready!), and I will also offer the same total discount saving to new customers if they buy both The Glue and The Drop at once.

“We keep our price point as low as possible all the time.” Sales are not made because people can’t afford it. Everyone can afford the cost of the tools. It’s a matter of priorities.
Sales are made to overcome psychological barriers that everyone has. No matter how well reasoned a decision someone has, the final act is always emotional. Making an offer you get:
- Getting people's attention, who would normally ignore you
- Favor the decision to people who are thinking of buying it
- Legalize people who are using a pirated versions
- Have more users and people in general talking about your product. This is free advertising
These are basic Marketing rules. And are not harming users, because you both win. They get a good product at a good price, and you get profit and impact.
By not offering discounts you are losing tons of money. But it’s your decision.
Have a nice day. Cheers.

wow. necro bump of a post from 2011.

anyway.. just stop really. no one wants to have this discussion with you. if you are going to go around and around with someone on all this BS please do it in a PM so no one else has to read all that crap.

[andy-cytomic]

I can use the AU versions, but I will lose all parameters settings and automation within the project.

Until the support of Apple Silicon I recommend running your DAW in Rosetta 2 emulation mode if you have projects that use Cytomic plugins.

[locojohn]

Until the support of Apple Silicon I recommend running your DAW in Rosetta 2 emulation mode if you have projects that use Cytomic plugins.

Do you have an idea when Apple Silicon versions of the two plugins I mentioned are planned to be available?

Thanks,
Andrejs

[andy-cytomic]

Do you have an idea when Apple Silicon versions of the two plugins I mentioned are planned to be available?

Thanks,
Andrejs

Once work is finished on The Scream (which is now in final beta) then I’ll begin work on the update to the Juce framework to support both VST3 and native Apple Silicon builds. It will take until the work is done to complete, but once work has commenced, and it mostly done I’ll have a better idea of timeframes, right now you can guess just as well as me

[locojohn]

For some reason it sounds like not earler than late spring 2023. :/

[besaco]

[/quote]
How much of business companies do you run? And especially in Audio? Let me guess.
NONE!
Thought so.
So stay the f away from "marketing rules" and "I am spewing a free consultation for you" - instead go earn money and buy the tools you want.
You can pretend and twist this but at the end of the day, you are just cheap.
Instead of patronizing amazing developers and pretending to be some kind of superficial "KVR forum product specialist" just go away and work on something real.
You are welcome. Cheers.
[/quote]

Well. I'm producer for more than 15 years. I have been freelancer and CTO in several companies. The technical part was always my strength, but business wasn't. That's why I started studying business, and that changed everything. At that moment, everything began to fall into place. You can always learn from anyone who crosses your path, no matter how simple it is, there will always be something that he knows and you don't. But I'm proud that I can learn from the best, like Jay Abraham. Currently I am starting my own producer business to help other musicians to get what they want.

If you didn't like my arguments, you can counterarguing. But there's no point in trying to discredit me as a person without even knowing me.
No, I'm not a billionaire. No, I don't make plugins. That doesn't mean that the same rules I use, can't be applied on other business.
And even if I dint knew what I were saying, my opinions should be respected. You don't like it, it's perfect, but I respect your opinion, and you should respect mine.
I didn't came here to make a fuss nor to "make a free consultation". I came to make visible other points of view that have not been taken into account.

I really feel bad because having such great products, they remain like a hidden piece that few people know. I'm in various groups with hundreds of producers, and when I told them about Cytomic none of them knew about it, and they didn't pay much interest either. However, it is common to talk about other companies, and especially when there are on sale. It's what I said before, no matter how good the product you offer is, you have to overcome the mental barrier that potential buyers have.
Fabfilter, for example, has become a standard for quality plugins. Why Cytomic, having in my opinion the best filter on the market, it's not so well known brand.
And what do you think will help a developer the most? Buy a copy of their product, or helping him to double it's billing in the next year. Time = money, and money = more time to make awesome plugins. In so many years we only have 2 and a halve plugins. They are awesome, but I'd love to see more plugins like that.

Anyway. I know little about you, but you seem a good guy. I don't know why you answered like that, but I'm sure if we met we will get on well.

About necro bump. I quoted that reply because is the first appearing on Google, nothing more. And you shouldn't be speaking for others, give your opinions on your own behalf. Good vibes.

Thanks for reading. Have a nice day.
(I have no intention of talking more about this topic.)

[andy-cytomic]

I'm not a big fan of such sales as I feel it penalises anyone that has bought the product while not on sale. I will be offering discounts to existing customers on The Drop (when it is ready!), and I will also offer the same total discount saving to new customers if they buy both The Glue and The Drop at once.

“We keep our price point as low as possible all the time.” Sales are not made because people can’t afford it. Everyone can afford the cost of the tools. It’s a matter of priorities.
Sales are made to overcome psychological barriers that everyone has. No matter how well reasoned a decision someone has, the final act is always emotional. Making an offer you get:
- Getting people's attention, who would normally ignore you
- Favor the decision to people who are thinking of buying it
- Legalize people who are using a pirated versions
- Have more users and people in general talking about your product. This is free advertising
These are basic Marketing rules. And are not harming users, because you both win. They get a good product at a good price, and you get profit and impact.
By not offering discounts you are losing tons of money. But it’s your decision.
Have a nice day. Cheers.

There is a big difference between offering discounts, which I do, and sales, which I don't. Please re-read the quoted passage again a bit more carefully. To me a "sale" is a one off time limited discount that puts pressure on people to "not miss out", and disadvantages those that decided to purchase either just before or after this time.

There is no used by date on a digital download, and you can never have too much or too little stock. The discounts we offer are permanent, if you buy two copies at once you get a 15% discount. If you are an existing customer (ie still own the license) that spent USD 99, you get a 30% discount. This way people are encouraged to purchase when it's right for them. Sure I may be missing out on some short term income, but in the longer term price stability and brand confidence is more important.

Unfortunately we have moved to a new web page and still need to get the discount system up and running again as it has to tie into the customer's purchased and owned licences and check if they qualify.