Which developers are a safe bet for longevity.

[simmo75]

This is an interesting subject. I’m way less inclined to go with new devs these days after having wasted so much money on fly by night devs.
The sad thing is, it’s often new devs that are trying out new and interesting things, I want to support them but I’ve seen too many come and go.

[rod_zero]

I think the first question is how much should a VI be maintained, what is reasonable? for me 10 years.

I prefer products that evolve into version 2 and so the developer can have an increase in income with the update to sustain the update cycle. This has worked for DAW for more than 2 decades. But for VI very few have reached this stage, Kontakt is probably the only one with such a number of updates, Absynth had 4 but it wasn't updated for years.

Even if not many features are added I do like when synths get a version 2, a GUI refresh is very important for me to keep the usability up to more recent standards. I would have loved Massive to get that kind of refresh, add some new ZDF filters and newer effects.

But not all VI can be updated this way and it kind puts an expire date on them.

[martinjuenke]

iZotope because they probably have a large market share

Ohohoh!!!

[martinjuenke]

If there is one most safe (for me personally) its Apple. No one wants to hear it but it is like it is.

Owners of Firewire hardware may disagree

Firewire is dead and out and therefore irrelevant, sorry.

[martinjuenke]

iZotope only for their premier plugins.

Uhuhuh!

[martinjuenke]

None.

15 largest companies that went bankrupt.

Refco - $33.33 billion in assets
American Savings And Load - $33.86 billion in assets
Texaco - $34.9 billion in assets
Pacific Gas & Electric (twice) - $36.1 billion in assets
Thornburg Mortgage - $36.5 billion in assets
Chrysler - $39.3 billion in assets
MF Global - $41 billion in assets
Conseco Inc - $61.3 billion in assets
Enron Corp - $65.5 billion in assets
CIT Group - $71 billion in assets
General Motors - $82.3 billion in assets
Worldcom - $103.9 billion in assets
Washington Mutual - $327.9 billion in assets
Lehman Brothers - $691.1 billion in assets

At least no one from the plugin industry

[martinjuenke]

Why does everything need to turn into a mac vs PC thread

I love Windows, everything is so lo-fi

[martinjuenke]

Reaper. I think the name says enough.

Have you tried Reaper ?

[martinjuenke]

Hardware rules!

[Echoes in the Attic]

iZotope because they probably have a large market share...

This didn't age well. Just got an email that Trash 2, Breaktweaker and Iris 2 have been discontinued. No longer for sale and will receive no more compatibility updates.

[imrae]

If there is one most safe (for me personally) its Apple. No one wants to hear it but it is like it is.

Owners of Firewire hardware may disagree

Firewire is dead and out and therefore irrelevant, sorry.

It wasn't when they started dropping it from products after previously hyping it. I was referring to events 14 years ago...

[Jafo]

Surge Synth Team, AirWindows, and anything else with open source. Some assembly required.

[BONES]

So today I am bumping the thread because I just found out IZotope have dropped support for R4 and Nimbus which I bought recently and Iris which I have enjoyed for a long time. More anxiety!

Why? Do those products work today? If they do, there is every reason to expect they will still work next year and the year after and the year after.

This is an interesting subject. I’m way less inclined to go with new devs these days after having wasted so much money on fly by night devs.
The sad thing is, it’s often new devs that are trying out new and interesting things, I want to support them but I’ve seen too many come and go.

I don't get this mindset at all. If it works, it works. If it doesn't, you shouldn't have bought it in the first place. I couldn't care less if every developer dropped dead tomorrow, I'd keep using their stuff (and I'd save a shit tonne of money into the bargain).

I prefer products that evolve into version 2 and so the developer can have an increase in income with the update to sustain the update cycle.

I couldn't care less. I'm using heaps of synths at the moment that haven't been updated in a decade or more. As long as they keep working, I'll keep using them. If they stop working, I'll find something else.

[simmo75]

So today I am bumping the thread because I just found out IZotope have dropped support for R4 and Nimbus which I bought recently and Iris which I have enjoyed for a long time. More anxiety!

Why? Do those products work today? If they do, there is every reason to expect they will still work next year and the year after and the year after.

This is an interesting subject. I’m way less inclined to go with new devs these days after having wasted so much money on fly by night devs.
The sad thing is, it’s often new devs that are trying out new and interesting things, I want to support them but I’ve seen too many come and go.

I don't get this mindset at all. If it works, it works. If it doesn't, you shouldn't have bought it in the first place. I couldn't care less if every developer dropped dead tomorrow, I'd keep using their stuff (and I'd save a shit tonne of money into the bargain).

I prefer products that evolve into version 2 and so the developer can have an increase in income with the update to sustain the update cycle.

I couldn't care less. I'm using heaps of synths at the moment that haven't been updated in a decade or more. As long as they keep working, I'll keep using them. If they stop working, I'll find something else.

That’s because you’re amazing, give yourself a kiss.

[BONES]

Which is to say you have no actual reasoning behind your stance and are unable to explain it to anyone else. Just as I suspected.