iZotope Iris 2

[aMUSEd]

What can be an alternative?

The only things I know that are anything near are Alchemy and Photosounder

[muki]

So they're finally and officially burying Iris 2, it's a pity really...

yes
too bad...

[Shabdahbriah]

What can be an alternative?

Dave takes his idea back, and GForce develop it.

I'd love to see this!

[zzz00m]

What can be an alternative?

Not aware of any synths that can spectral edit like Iris can. iZotope basically took their spectral audio editing technology and bolted it together multiple samplers. Fantastic idea, but too bad it never really hit mainstream success.

There are a couple of virtual instruments that come to mind (there may be others) that can manage 4 sample slots that can be layered and processed in interesting ways. They are both drag and drop capable with your own samples. But without spectral editing...

Soundpaint (free engine) https://soundpaint.com/
Bioscape (for Kontakt Player) https://www.native-instruments.com/en/p ... /bioscape/
https://www.luftrum.com/bioscape/

[_leras]

So they're finally and officially burying Iris 2, it's a pity really...

yes
too bad...

In terms of their time to return, of course ozone performed way better than Iris... To the point it was not worth their time.

It's been bargain basement price for years, so no surprise it's finally discontinued.

As a windows user I'm sure it'll keep working for many years. So as it stands not too worried.

It can make some unique style sounds, but it's not gonna make or break anyone's musical creativity if they couldn't use it.

[syntonica]

Oh, bu twho will save the BreakTweaker?

There needs to be a home for low-volume, high-love plugins to go to to at least be maintained. With Iris, Absynth, Trash and BT being discontinued, it's a sad day for creativity.

[iPlogger]

Yeah, bummer. I never did buy Iris 2. Thought it looked quite interesting and I have a Luftrum sound library I always wanted to hear. Now I'm kicking myself for never taking the $10 sales. I did pick up BreakTweaker, though.

[Sinisterbr]

Actually, is it now officially abandonware?
I bought it, just being curious.

[zzz00m]

There needs to be a home for low-volume, high-love plugins to go to to at least be maintained. With Iris, Absynth, Trash and BT being discontinued, it's a sad day for creativity.

Open sourcing the code would be the obvious answer, but that's totally the call of the copyright owner to do so, as it was with the original Surge developer, Vember Audio.

If the owner has used any of the underlying code in other newer commercial products they wouldn't be able to open source the code to the original low-volume, high-love plugins.

[syntonica]

There needs to be a home for low-volume, high-love plugins to go to to at least be maintained. With Iris, Absynth, Trash and BT being discontinued, it's a sad day for creativity.

Open sourcing the code would be the obvious answer, but that's totally the call of the copyright owner to do so, as it was with the original Surge developer, Vember Audio.

If the owner has used any of the underlying code in other newer commercial products they wouldn't be able to open source the code to the original low-volume, high-love plugins.

If there's proprietary code, it can be stripped out, in the case of things like the GUI or copy-protection. Usually, any osc or filter code is old news. But selling the code on to another dev either for a flat fee or a small percentage works, too.

[zzz00m]

There needs to be a home for low-volume, high-love plugins to go to to at least be maintained. With Iris, Absynth, Trash and BT being discontinued, it's a sad day for creativity.

Open sourcing the code would be the obvious answer, but that's totally the call of the copyright owner to do so, as it was with the original Surge developer, Vember Audio.

If the owner has used any of the underlying code in other newer commercial products they wouldn't be able to open source the code to the original low-volume, high-love plugins.

If there's proprietary code, it can be stripped out, in the case of things like the GUI or copy-protection. Usually, any osc or filter code is old news. But selling the code on to another dev either for a flat fee or a small percentage works, too.

Well you are just guessing unless you have access to the source code. It could also be that they don't want to allocate the human resources to do any code review of old code. Cheaper for them to just let it sit in the vault.

[zzz00m]

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[gaggle of hermits]

Usually, any osc or filter code is old news. But selling the code on to another dev either for a flat fee or a small percentage works, too.

this is where you get into the crazy world of internal corporate politics, especially where private equity is involved. i've seen first-hand situations where a company has had some IP or similar asset that's about to be retired but refused to sell it because of the fear that the buyer might make a go of it and that decision bouncing back on the manager who OKed the sale.

basically: "they're making money with this, why aren't we? why did you sell it to them?"

it's seen as easier to keep your job by just burying the thing (until the day the company goes bust because it couldn't sell the other stuff either).

[syntonica]

Well you are just guessing unless you have access to the source code.

More or less, but the programmer in charge of the code should know this stuff and be able to strip out anything in well under a day. Of course, this presumes there's an old-time left still familiar with the codevase....

Yes, there are the IP hoarders who somehow think code doesn't rot and someday they'll be sitting on a gold mine, but fail to see that passing the code on somehow may do more good in PR for the company than just taking the program behind the barn and shooting it.

[aMUSEd]

They won't open source it as it uses their own Radias time stretch algorithms which are used also in their other products such as Rx (in many respects it is Rx reimagined as an instrument/sound explorer)