KVR Audio

Gribs · Post by **Gribs** » Mon Oct 31, 2022 12:30 am

None of them are safe. Every company has potential to fail.

In my opinion, the best bet is to be ready and able to adapt and change direction. As an engineer in my professional life (optical engineer and mathematical modeler with over 30 years of experience), I switch tools as needed. Learning new things is both challenging and fun, again in my opinion. Audio tools are similar. Sure I was disappointed when Apple bought Camel Audio and when LinPlug closed up shop, but there are lots of good tools from many other developers.

metamorphosis · Post by **metamorphosis** » Mon Oct 31, 2022 12:32 am

Only safe bet is freeware

sQeetz · Post by **sQeetz** » Mon Oct 31, 2022 5:43 am

I think about that all the time. What if I put my notebook aside and after.. let's say... 5 years turn it back on.
Which plugins will still authorize? My guess is that half of the stuff I have now, will simply refuse to work
talk about sunk cost...

jamcat · Post by **jamcat** » Mon Oct 31, 2022 6:02 am

metamorphosis wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 12:32 am Only safe bet is freeware

Only if you never update you DAW, OS, or computer system.

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Mon Oct 31, 2022 6:09 am

metamorphosis wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 12:32 am Only safe bet is freeware

Really only open source, and even then only if you have the skill to maintain the code. There are better bets though. I suspect that Reaper will continue to work until I'm dead. Probably Logic as well.

Michael L · Post by **Michael L** » Mon Oct 31, 2022 8:17 am

ghettosynth wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 6:09 amI suspect that Reaper will continue to work until I'm dead. Probably Logic as well.

MuLab has plans to continue beyond death.

FapFilter · Post by **FapFilter** » Mon Oct 31, 2022 8:23 am

... rest assured that the Reaper will have been involved in this in one form or the other

ChristopherWD · Post by **ChristopherWD** » Mon Oct 31, 2022 2:16 pm

jamcat wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 6:02 am
metamorphosis wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 12:32 am Only safe bet is freeware
Only if you never update you DAW, OS, or computer system.

Yeah... I have about 5-6 years worth of DAW projects from the mid 2000's that are a nightmare to get working because they require an old 32-bit FLStudio to open correctly, an older OS, they also use a lot of old SynthEdit plugins which cause me major issues, they require single core processing or you'll get crashes, and then there's all those soundfonts...

Kept me stubborn about sticking with 32-bit DAW's and old plugins for far too long but I eventually made the jump and now I'm a lot more selective about what actually stays in my projects...

eerie_audio · Post by **eerie_audio** » Mon Oct 31, 2022 3:01 pm

Anyone still using this?

Does it even authorize and run? Transfer or register?

martiu · Post by **martiu** » Mon Oct 31, 2022 3:11 pm

Izotope, Native Instruments, Sound Guru

audiojunkie · Post by **audiojunkie** » Mon Oct 31, 2022 3:12 pm

The way I have things set up for longevity is the following:

* I use Linux
* I use my favorite 64 bit OpenSource plugins that are included in all of the distro repositories
* I use only software that supports High Resolution screens
* When buying, I avoid anything other than Serial or keyfile copy protection
* One of the most stable ABIs/APIs in Linux is WINE. Most everything that I have from the Windows world that supports high resolution screens is likely to continue working forever in Linux.

Even with all of this, I have hundreds of apps and tools that I've lost the use of over the years, because I use HiDPI monitors and don't want to go back to older resolutions -- which goes to show that even after years of planning for longevity, you can still be bit in the butt by some unseen technological development.

Edit: I guess I should add that for every plugin that I like that I no longer use because of resolution problems, I use DiscoDSP's Bliss sampler to convert my favorite patches to SFZ multisamples that can be essentially used in any sampler (especially SFZ players). I have a very large SFZ collection (approximately 40-50GB). This supplements a lot!

sQeetz · Post by **sQeetz** » Mon Oct 31, 2022 4:13 pm

eerie_audio wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 3:01 pm Anyone still using this?

Does it even authorize and run? Transfer or register?

OOh I remember wanting one so desperately

nix808 · Post by **nix808** » Mon Oct 31, 2022 4:24 pm

i have a kore2,
i use it for midi ports on windows

Dunbar · Post by **Dunbar** » Mon Oct 31, 2022 4:30 pm

For a comprehensive list of developers that only use serial/keyfile activation, here's a dedicated thread:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=541495

Note, the list is slightly out of date, some companies now require server activation: Imageline, Amplesound

syntonica · Post by **syntonica** » Mon Oct 31, 2022 5:45 pm

Michael L wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 8:17 am
ghettosynth wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 6:09 amI suspect that Reaper will continue to work until I'm dead. Probably Logic as well.
MuLab has plans to continue beyond death.

Zombie Jo!

Which developers are a safe bet for longevity.