Tracking Apple Silicon Native Hosts, Plugins, Effects

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jamcat wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 3:30 pm
davestretch wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 6:23 am
darkinners wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 12:52 am
jamcat wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 12:14 am
Aiynzahev wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:30 pm Is the Lindel stuff from PA still not m1 native?
Nope, it's not.
And based on the rude response I got from PA tech support, I suspect it never will be.

Doesn't look like Lindell Audio is up to the task.
lol I got a rude response from PA tech support on me asking when will Lindell and the rest of their plugins be AS native too.
Not able to check this myself as I don't have a subscription but I was told on a FB post that the Lindell plugins are available in Beta to XXL Subscribers so hopefully they are coming.
I feel like they've been gaslighting us about the Lindell Audio plugins all year.
This is the third or fourth time in the last 6 months that I've seen a vague reference to some social media post (without providing links), claiming that the Lindell Audio plugins are mere days away. But it's been just a lot of false hope, and they never materialize.
I just signed up for a free trial of their Mega XXL Bundle which includes access to Betas.

Here are the older ones in Beta which includes most of the Lindell plugs - omitted is the 902 De-Esser which is strange as it is a more recent release:
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Native Instrument Komplete Kontrol updated to Apple Silicon Native 2.8.0

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cadiz wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 9:45 am Denise Audio (https://www.denise.io) has updated their plugins to be Universal (exception is Perfect Room, soon to follow):

Bass XL 3.0.0
Sub Generator 2.0.0
Poltergate 2.0.0
I just downloaded them in my account and updated them. It seems they are still not Apple Silicon/Universal library.
I couldn't see them under VST/VST3 in all of my DAWs running in Apple Silicon Native mode.
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darkinners wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 10:53 am Native Instrument Komplete Kontrol updated to Apple Silicon Native 2.8.0
Where is that announced?

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aMUSEd wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 11:17 am
darkinners wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 10:53 am Native Instrument Komplete Kontrol updated to Apple Silicon Native 2.8.0
Where is that announced?
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Just open your Native Access 2 and you will see it.
However just a heads up. I just tested it, since it now host VST3 plugins instead of VST2 plugins. Some 3rd party plugins now couldn't load if they don't support VST2 > VST3 auto mapping/transition.

Namely: All U-he's instruments and effects, All Arturia's instruments and effects, All Softube effects and some of the Spitfire audio instruments (I got everything working except The Aperture)


All Waves, iZotope, Eventide and PA instruments and effect plugins are working correctly.

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OK great - it's just not announced yet. I know, some developers have not implemented it yet is why, the host provides support for it but migration also needs to be implemented on the plugin side.

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aMUSEd wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 11:32 am OK great - it's just not announced yet. I know, some developers have not implemented it yet is why, the host provides support for it but migration also needs to be implemented on the plugin side.
Ones that I know do migrate so far are:

AAS
Vital
UVI (Falcon and Drone)
TAL (but seems a bit unstable)
SugarBytes
SPC (Arcsyn)
Audiodamage Quanta but not Phosphor
Plugin Alliance
iZotope
Expressive E
Modartt (Pianoteq)
Valhalla dsp
Synthmaster One and 2
FAW Circle 2

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darkinners wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 11:03 am
cadiz wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 9:45 am Denise Audio (https://www.denise.io) has updated their plugins to be Universal (exception is Perfect Room, soon to follow):

Bass XL 3.0.0
Sub Generator 2.0.0
Poltergate 2.0.0
I just downloaded them in my account and updated them. It seems they are still not Apple Silicon/Universal library.
I couldn't see them under VST/VST3 in all of my DAWs running in Apple Silicon Native mode.
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You're correct, I'm seeing the same, I've just contacted them - there might be an issue with the versions they've uploaded...

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cadiz wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 11:47 am
darkinners wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 11:03 am
cadiz wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 9:45 am Denise Audio (https://www.denise.io) has updated their plugins to be Universal (exception is Perfect Room, soon to follow):

Bass XL 3.0.0
Sub Generator 2.0.0
Poltergate 2.0.0
I just downloaded them in my account and updated them. It seems they are still not Apple Silicon/Universal library.
I couldn't see them under VST/VST3 in all of my DAWs running in Apple Silicon Native mode.
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You're correct, I'm seeing the same, I've just contacted them - there might be an issue with the versions they've uploaded...
Btw how did you find out the news of their plugin have update?
Denise is like the quietest dev out there. They don’t even update their social media post and till now I don’t even know where to find their update release note.

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darkinners wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 11:27 am
aMUSEd wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 11:17 am
darkinners wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 10:53 am Native Instrument Komplete Kontrol updated to Apple Silicon Native 2.8.0
Where is that announced?
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Just open your Native Access 2 and you will see it.
However just a heads up. I just tested it, since it now host VST3 plugins instead of VST2 plugins. Some 3rd party plugins now couldn't load if they don't support VST2 > VST3 auto mapping/transition.

Namely: All U-he's instruments and effects, All Arturia's instruments and effects, All Softube effects and some of the Spitfire audio instruments (I got everything working except The Aperture)


All Waves, iZotope, Eventide and PA instruments and effect plugins are working correctly.
I've been running the beta for a couple months. Keep in mind that Komplete Kontrol in native mode cannot load anything but native VST3s.
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Yes so I'm using it in Rosetta for now as I have plugins I still need VST2 for (ie those that don't yet migrate)

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just tested DMG Audio TrackControl again this morning, verified in Terminal, with the latest installer at v1.09 and it is still NOT Apple Silicon native. only Intel 64 and 32 bit (neither AU, VST, VST3 are AS native, not sure anymore if it even had AAX)

might be that the "complete package installer" download is containing native versions, the separate installer doesn't though
The GAS is always greener on the other side!

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Maschine 2 has added support for Apple Silicon.

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FapFilter wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 12:51 pm just tested DMG Audio TrackControl again this morning, verified in Terminal, with the latest installer at v1.09 and it is still NOT Apple Silicon native. only Intel 64 and 32 bit (neither AU, VST, VST3 are AS native, not sure anymore if it even had AAX)

might be that the "complete package installer" download is containing native versions, the separate installer doesn't though
The ARM versions are in the combined ARM installer which is a separate download, right on their Downloads page. The database is accurate.

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