...Trying again
Free new Rhodes soundfont
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- KVRist
- 63 posts since 2 Dec, 2003 from from the undifferentiated everything to the individuated I
yup I saved as... in Firefox and IE.. and both times got file corrupted and the decompression didn't finish ...
Trying again
...Trying again
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- KVRAF
- 13444 posts since 14 Nov, 2000 from Hannover / Germany
Hm, sfArk (latest version) is telling me it can't decompress the file as the file type isn't supported.
VERY weird!
Any tips?
VERY weird!
Any tips?
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
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- KVRAF
- 7412 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
My version of René's document: http://www.drealm.org.uk/sfz/plj-sfz.html
René's document: http://www.rgcaudio.com/sfzformat.htm
Mmm, someone else said they couldn't get sf2comp working... it's odd: it was broken for me for a while but I can't remember what I did to get it running again. I think maybe I made sure the installed executable and DLL were both in PATH or something. TobyBear springs to mind as someone who may have helped resolve it.
René's document: http://www.rgcaudio.com/sfzformat.htm
Mmm, someone else said they couldn't get sf2comp working... it's odd: it was broken for me for a while but I can't remember what I did to get it running again. I think maybe I made sure the installed executable and DLL were both in PATH or something. TobyBear springs to mind as someone who may have helped resolve it.
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- KVRist
- 63 posts since 2 Dec, 2003 from from the undifferentiated everything to the individuated I
Ok I got it working.
It appears that Jeffs sfARK needs to be decompressed using sfarkXTc available from http://melodymachine.com/sfark.htm
...and from what I experienced, you'll need to re-download the soundfont cause when I tried to decompressed with the sfark first..instead of sfarkXTc, it seemed to permanently corrupt the file.
Thanks!
It appears that Jeffs sfARK needs to be decompressed using sfarkXTc available from http://melodymachine.com/sfark.htm
...and from what I experienced, you'll need to re-download the soundfont cause when I tried to decompressed with the sfark first..instead of sfarkXTc, it seemed to permanently corrupt the file.
Thanks!
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- KVRAF
- 13444 posts since 14 Nov, 2000 from Hannover / Germany
Thanks, the sfArkXtc thing worked (without redownloading). Weird though.
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
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- KVRAF
- 13444 posts since 14 Nov, 2000 from Hannover / Germany
Ah! That's an excellent Rhodes!
Kontakt converted it rather fine, only had to do some minor envelope adjustments.
Oh, btw, had fun jamming along with your little snipplet:
http://home.arcor.de/s.franck/JeffJam.mp3
Kontakt converted it rather fine, only had to do some minor envelope adjustments.
Oh, btw, had fun jamming along with your little snipplet:
http://home.arcor.de/s.franck/JeffJam.mp3
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
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- jaaathmaster
- 2690 posts since 1 Jun, 2001 from Marlow, S. Bucks, UK
Hehe, who got the blues?Sascha Franck wrote:Ah! That's an excellent Rhodes!
Kontakt converted it rather fine, only had to do some minor envelope adjustments.
Oh, btw, had fun jamming along with your little snipplet:
http://home.arcor.de/s.franck/JeffJam.mp3
Always a pleasure to hear you play
Music with dinner is an insult both to the cook and the violinist.
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- KVRian
- 1045 posts since 23 Jul, 2001 from Jersey Is Where America's At
This is a very nice rhodes soundfont, many many thanks. I converted Wizoo's Magnetica to Soundfont a few months back and not only is this bigger than that Rhodes also sounds better to me and all for free. Thanks again.
I'm sorry this post wasn't about techno.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 500 posts since 13 Oct, 2004 from Durham, NC USA
Hot licks, Sascha! 
If you like to jam on other folks' tracks, go sign up at ArtistCollaboration.com!
Don't know what's up with sfArk (v2.05). I see it's now at version 2.15, so I'll upgrade and reconvert. Hopefully the problems will go away.
The soundfonts at sullvang.com ROCK! The Wurlie is a good one, and I especially like the Yamaha CP70. Had a bit of fun reminiscing, and playing it along along with my Rhodes like I used to do all the time.
BTW, I did my first "side-by-side" with the soundfont and my Rhodes. Well, it still ain't the real thing! In othe ways, though, it's better. There aren't any keys that thud a bit, and the action is more even. I don't have to hit it so damn hard to make it bark (my rubber hammer tips are a bit worn). But it still ain't quite the same ... and probably never will be! In any case, it's close enough, and I plan to use it live a lot. I don't lug the Rhodes anywhere any more!
If you like to jam on other folks' tracks, go sign up at ArtistCollaboration.com!Don't know what's up with sfArk (v2.05). I see it's now at version 2.15, so I'll upgrade and reconvert. Hopefully the problems will go away.
The soundfonts at sullvang.com ROCK!
The Wurlie is a good one, and I especially like the Yamaha CP70. Had a bit of fun reminiscing, and playing it along along with my Rhodes like I used to do all the time.BTW, I did my first "side-by-side" with the soundfont and my Rhodes. Well, it still ain't the real thing! In othe ways, though, it's better. There aren't any keys that thud a bit, and the action is more even. I don't have to hit it so damn hard to make it bark (my rubber hammer tips are a bit worn). But it still ain't quite the same ... and probably never will be! In any case, it's close enough, and I plan to use it live a lot. I don't lug the Rhodes anywhere any more!
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 500 posts since 13 Oct, 2004 from Durham, NC USA
SFZ format -- well, summagun! If I'd have known about that, I probably wouldn't have bothered writing code to piece together sf2 files! I really had a bitch of a time figuring out that when the Soundfont spec said that the high order byte specifies the low key/velocity, and vice versa, that they were wrong. (And it's NOT an endian-ness problem on my end!) I sure wish I had those hours back!
Since I use the SFZ player to test my sounds (now that Giga breaks my computer so I can't use it), I'll probably adjust my tools to build an SFZ control file until everything works.
If someone would write a portable app to convert from SFZ format into soundfont, then I could just publish the SFZ format as a RAR file, and point to the app. Since RAR is supported on Mac, this might alleviate a lot of problems. It would make it trivial to exchange new presets and control settings, because that's just a text file.
Feel free to say more about this, but take it to a new thread. I already have a Python app that does half the job. Add a parser for SFZ and a bit more infrastructure and that would do it, but Python is a lot to download and install for a little app like this should be. Plus my app is DOS command-line, no good for the general public.
Since I use the SFZ player to test my sounds (now that Giga breaks my computer so I can't use it), I'll probably adjust my tools to build an SFZ control file until everything works.
If someone would write a portable app to convert from SFZ format into soundfont, then I could just publish the SFZ format as a RAR file, and point to the app. Since RAR is supported on Mac, this might alleviate a lot of problems. It would make it trivial to exchange new presets and control settings, because that's just a text file.
Feel free to say more about this, but take it to a new thread. I already have a Python app that does half the job. Add a parser for SFZ and a bit more infrastructure and that would do it, but Python is a lot to download and install for a little app like this should be. Plus my app is DOS command-line, no good for the general public.
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- KVRist
- 427 posts since 26 Nov, 2000 from Gallifrey, The Capitol.
I've done some patches (FXB) for this soundfont for Effectizer. If anyone's interested and would like to host them then send me a message and I'll forward them on.
I'm not the greatest patch programmer ever, but I've heard a few rhodes sounds on tv at various times and some of these sound rather like those....which depending on your point of view is a good and a bad thing!
Cheers for the soundfont to.
Spratman
I'm not the greatest patch programmer ever, but I've heard a few rhodes sounds on tv at various times and some of these sound rather like those....which depending on your point of view is a good and a bad thing!
Cheers for the soundfont to.
Spratman
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- KVRAF
- 1789 posts since 17 Mar, 2004 from Bretagne, the west of France
Sasha why was that only 26 secondsSascha Franck wrote:Ah! That's an excellent Rhodes!
Kontakt converted it rather fine, only had to do some minor envelope adjustments.
Oh, btw, had fun jamming along with your little snipplet:
http://home.arcor.de/s.franck/JeffJam.mp3
Now you come with a complete song and post in the music cafe
Rony
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 500 posts since 13 Oct, 2004 from Durham, NC USA
I guess he could have looped my short clip, but that might have gotten old pretty fast. And the timing issues would have been more annoying!
Regarding jStereoPiano, to those who asked:
I couldn't reply at first because it would have violated the terms at this site. I forgot I had that posted there, and had to delete it because it's technically copyright infringement. So, you folks who downloaded it, please be aware that distributing it would be infringing on the rights of EMU/Ensoniq. (It took me a while to even figure that out.)
Here's the beef. This soundfont is a quick sampling of my Ensoniq MR76 synth's "Stereo Piano" patch, with very little in the way of parameter editing. 8 velocity layers, sampling every 4th white key. It was intended as an informal experiment to help me understand how the dynamics of my keyboard compares to others, and whether I should compensate when building soundfonts. I sampled at a set of velocities and then mapped those samples to their velocities. (I goofed and mapped them to "up to" their velocity; I should have mapped them to span equally above and below.)
What I find with my keyboard is I have to play carefully to get velocities lower than 64. That is, it's not hard when playing a song, but it is hard to do it hitting one key in isolation. On the other hand, I have to play quite hard to reach 127. The resulting dynamics of the synth are very piano-like.
I wanted feedback as to whether the sample set seemed to be biased one way or the other. Unfortunately, the folks where I posted thanked me for the sf but didn't give me any feedback.
So, for those of you who did download that sf, if you want to assuage your conscience a bit, we can probably cite "fair use" under the "education" exemption, if you could be so kind as to give me some feedback about whether the piano soundfont plays like a piano should, or is "too heavy" or "too light" or any other feedback you can think of.
Also, be aware that the soundfont has some technical flaws that would make it unsuitable for serious use.
Thanks!
Jeff
PS: It's a lovely little piano, isn't it? I don't care for the obvious quantization noise at the tail ends in the upper-middle registers (the buzzing-ringing tones you can hear if you pay attention). But in spite of that, it's my main piano sound due to its dynamics, image, evenness across the keyboard, and lovely stereo image. To think it came from only a few MB of samples in the 1997 MR76!
Regarding jStereoPiano, to those who asked:
I couldn't reply at first because it would have violated the terms at this site. I forgot I had that posted there, and had to delete it because it's technically copyright infringement. So, you folks who downloaded it, please be aware that distributing it would be infringing on the rights of EMU/Ensoniq. (It took me a while to even figure that out.)
Here's the beef. This soundfont is a quick sampling of my Ensoniq MR76 synth's "Stereo Piano" patch, with very little in the way of parameter editing. 8 velocity layers, sampling every 4th white key. It was intended as an informal experiment to help me understand how the dynamics of my keyboard compares to others, and whether I should compensate when building soundfonts. I sampled at a set of velocities and then mapped those samples to their velocities. (I goofed and mapped them to "up to" their velocity; I should have mapped them to span equally above and below.)
What I find with my keyboard is I have to play carefully to get velocities lower than 64. That is, it's not hard when playing a song, but it is hard to do it hitting one key in isolation. On the other hand, I have to play quite hard to reach 127. The resulting dynamics of the synth are very piano-like.
I wanted feedback as to whether the sample set seemed to be biased one way or the other. Unfortunately, the folks where I posted thanked me for the sf but didn't give me any feedback.
So, for those of you who did download that sf, if you want to assuage your conscience a bit, we can probably cite "fair use" under the "education" exemption, if you could be so kind as to give me some feedback about whether the piano soundfont plays like a piano should, or is "too heavy" or "too light" or any other feedback you can think of.
Also, be aware that the soundfont has some technical flaws that would make it unsuitable for serious use.
Thanks!
Jeff
PS: It's a lovely little piano, isn't it? I don't care for the obvious quantization noise at the tail ends in the upper-middle registers (the buzzing-ringing tones you can hear if you pay attention). But in spite of that, it's my main piano sound due to its dynamics, image, evenness across the keyboard, and lovely stereo image. To think it came from only a few MB of samples in the 1997 MR76!