I WANT to love it...
- KVRian
- 920 posts since 12 Jan, 2004 from Boston, MA
Which synth(s) do you want to love, but can't (for whatever reason)?
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- 6787 posts since 22 Mar, 2009 from gent
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- KVRAF
- 2818 posts since 30 Aug, 2001 from where dinosaurs are still alive
Absolutely, that thing has literally zero pong.
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- KVRist
- 213 posts since 28 Aug, 2021
Phase Plant and Arturia V collection.
I don’t use Phase Plant as much as I wanted to, it sounds ok for your bread and butter synth sound but it sound absolutely amazing in those really sharp and crisp complex patches. However the workflow never clicked with me.
I find myself using ZebraHZ much more if I want something that’s flexible and powerful. Even Zebra is not as flexible and powerful as Phase Plant.
For Arturia V collections I like the idea of the variety of those classic synth emulation but when in use they just all sound thin, too clean and uninspiring to me(except for Ms-20, CS-80, DX7 and Buchla), on top of that I really don’t like their GUI and load time. GUI taken up too much unused empty space for the sake of making them look like the hardware they emulate. I much prefer the approach of U-he, Gforce and TAL.
I don’t use Phase Plant as much as I wanted to, it sounds ok for your bread and butter synth sound but it sound absolutely amazing in those really sharp and crisp complex patches. However the workflow never clicked with me.
I find myself using ZebraHZ much more if I want something that’s flexible and powerful. Even Zebra is not as flexible and powerful as Phase Plant.
For Arturia V collections I like the idea of the variety of those classic synth emulation but when in use they just all sound thin, too clean and uninspiring to me(except for Ms-20, CS-80, DX7 and Buchla), on top of that I really don’t like their GUI and load time. GUI taken up too much unused empty space for the sake of making them look like the hardware they emulate. I much prefer the approach of U-he, Gforce and TAL.
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- KVRist
- 283 posts since 9 Dec, 2018
Toss up between Phase Plant and Pigments. Workflow for Phaseplant, and sound / cpu hit for Pigments.
- KVRAF
- 2991 posts since 13 Apr, 2008 from Charleston, SC
1. Wiggle by 2nd Sense Audio
2. Unfiltered Audio Lion
3. the shocker.... UVI Falcon
2. Unfiltered Audio Lion
3. the shocker.... UVI Falcon
- KVRAF
- 12235 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
I’d have to say Maschine, but more specifically it’s that I used to love it, but can’t anymore because it’s become a convoluted mess.
And, to a lesser extent, I’ll add Zebra. Now, before everybody freaks out, let me add that I like Zebra, but I don’t love it. I want to love it, but I find that I mostly just tinker with it and rarely use it in any of my songs. It’s just a workflow thing where I prefer using something like Hive, RePro, or Diva. Looking forward to seeing Zebra3 change/blow my mind, though.
And, to a lesser extent, I’ll add Zebra. Now, before everybody freaks out, let me add that I like Zebra, but I don’t love it. I want to love it, but I find that I mostly just tinker with it and rarely use it in any of my songs. It’s just a workflow thing where I prefer using something like Hive, RePro, or Diva. Looking forward to seeing Zebra3 change/blow my mind, though.
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- KVRAF
- 18477 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
I want to love Massive X. I do love the sound of it, and the feature set. I’ll even spend some time with it, hoping it becomes second nature. Then I’ll leave it for a bit, and when I git back to it, it feels almost like I’ve never seen it before. “P2?” “L4?” It’s like my brain is angry remembering what they stand for. If someone who worked for me turned in that UI I’d ask him why is he showing me programmer placeholder and then fire them.
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- KVRist
- 447 posts since 15 Aug, 2018
I want to love Synapse's Obsession, but I think I stay away from it because of the stupid rack extension GUI.
Also, Ultra Analog 3 - you don't know how many times I've disabled/re-enabled this thing. It's currently disabled. The presets on it just sound outdated. And I don't mean retro because I like retro. It just sounds 90s old.
Also, Ultra Analog 3 - you don't know how many times I've disabled/re-enabled this thing. It's currently disabled. The presets on it just sound outdated. And I don't mean retro because I like retro. It just sounds 90s old.
- KVRian
- 575 posts since 30 Jan, 2021
I agree with @JonSolo about Falcon. I REALLY want to love the powerful synth, it does so much, but the multi-page workflow and unintuitive routings slow me down too much to be useful when I'm anxious to get sounds down.
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- GRRRRRRR!
- 17874 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
Top of my list would be DUNE. I really want to love it because I know that, objectively, it's awesome and it's made by someone I hold in the highest regard but, at the end of the day, I just hate using it.
Second was Pigments. I love the workflow and I appreciate all the bits and pieces but, ultimately, I could never get it to sound as good as the instruments around it. Eventually I gave up and I have replaced it in every song I had used it in.
HY-Poly is another synth I really want to love but I can't quite get there. I think it's the filters, which are workmanlike, at best. I still use it very occasionally but I'd love to be able to use it more.
Second was Pigments. I love the workflow and I appreciate all the bits and pieces but, ultimately, I could never get it to sound as good as the instruments around it. Eventually I gave up and I have replaced it in every song I had used it in.
HY-Poly is another synth I really want to love but I can't quite get there. I think it's the filters, which are workmanlike, at best. I still use it very occasionally but I'd love to be able to use it more.
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- KVRAF
- 5851 posts since 9 Jul, 2002 from Helsinki
All wavetable synths. I appreciate the concept and power they have, I just don't seem to be able to like the actual sounds they produce.
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- KVRist
- 312 posts since 31 Oct, 2015
Same with me with Bazille. Perhaps there are too many options (even setting the osc and LFO frequencies is a headache), the layout and the « sequencer », the « multiple » : all is double, quadruple uses depending on how you patch them…cryophonik wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:47 am I’d have to say Maschine, but more specifically it’s that I used to love it, but can’t anymore because it’s become a convoluted mess.
And, to a lesser extent, I’ll add Zebra. Now, before everybody freaks out, let me add that I like Zebra, but I don’t love it. I want to love it, but I find that I mostly just tinker with it and rarely use it in any of my songs. It’s just a workflow thing where I prefer using something like Hive, RePro, or Diva. Looking forward to seeing Zebra3 change/blow my mind, though.
I love the sound but I prefer something like Aalto (as an example of a « modular » kind of synth)
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- KVRian
- 908 posts since 26 Jul, 2018 from Germany
The "I want to love it" feelings are gone over the years, there is always a good reason why I don't love it. It's ok. 
But, I can also use plugins without love (non regularly), as long they don't drive me mad....
But, I can also use plugins without love (non regularly), as long they don't drive me mad....
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- KVRAF
- 8081 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle
This is a strange one to me, because to me this list is most soft synths. I can get around about any of them, but only a dozen out of hundreds have me using them more than a few times.
Mostly I think of second tier synths, ones I use rarely, that at first I thought would be a constant part of my workflow. So ones like Lion, Knifonium, Massive X, most of Arturias synths, Repro, Xils.
Some of it is choice overload, I might like these synths, but I'm comfortable in the 5-10 synths I use all the time, so learning to get X synth to bend to my needs when I can already do that in Y synth is just more work with no reward.
Couple that with weird choices in GUI, heavy CPU hits, or in the case of Lion awkward modulation limits on what looks like at first a super modulation friendly synth puts me off. I'm still pissed about Plasmonics idiotic bass ackwards reversal of position on adjustment speed of faders depending on vertical or horizontal positioning, but in that case, I still use it all the time.
Mostly I think of second tier synths, ones I use rarely, that at first I thought would be a constant part of my workflow. So ones like Lion, Knifonium, Massive X, most of Arturias synths, Repro, Xils.
Some of it is choice overload, I might like these synths, but I'm comfortable in the 5-10 synths I use all the time, so learning to get X synth to bend to my needs when I can already do that in Y synth is just more work with no reward.
Couple that with weird choices in GUI, heavy CPU hits, or in the case of Lion awkward modulation limits on what looks like at first a super modulation friendly synth puts me off. I'm still pissed about Plasmonics idiotic bass ackwards reversal of position on adjustment speed of faders depending on vertical or horizontal positioning, but in that case, I still use it all the time.
