Gforce Software Oberheim SEM

[BONES]

GForce's sale finishes today so I relented and picked up Oddity 2 for Au$40. I wasn't going to but then I thought, bugger it!

[StayFlyEatFries]

I don’t have Architect but just wondered if anyone knows if there is a way to split/allocated midi notes across different tracks in Ableton Live. Some form of M4L midi filtering device maybe, or something in a device chain? Would be interesting to split the notes of a chord across different synth and or samples not just multiple instances of the same synth.

Bit late to the party here but, there's a great M4L device from Chaos Culture that can do this, called Scale Breaker. It's a MIDI effect for retuning instruments, similar to Ableton's Microtuner. But if you leave it on the default 12EDO mode, you can use it to send polyphonic MIDI data to an instrument rack stacked with monophonic synths!

Here is an example — first the "Scale Breaker" device (which is a MIDI effect), on its default setting but with "Non-MPE Output" mode turned on. Then an instrument rack for your synths, and for each voice you add the "Scale Breaker Voice" device just before the instrument itself. Then you can play polyphonic MIDI data (up to the amount of voices you set).

And because it's an instrument rack, you can make each synth different if you want to, or keep them all the same by copy-pasting. You could also make slight variations to each voice (different LFO speeds etc.)

[martiu]

GForce's sale finishes today so I relented and picked up Oddity 2 for Au$40. I wasn't going to but then I thought, bugger it!

how dare you, how dare you kind mister

[BONES]

I know, it was $40 wasted. It sounds so weak and thin next to Korg's ARP Odyssey. I'll never use it.

[Uncle E]

I know, it was $40 wasted. It sounds so weak and thin next to Korg's ARP Odyssey. I'll never use it.

Korg ARP Odyssey hardware or plugin?

[BONES]

Plugin! None of the hardware options have patch memory, so they are useless.

[gentleclockdivider]

Plugin! None of the hardware options have patch memory, so they are useless.

Let me correct that for you ,

Plugin! None of the hardware options have patch memory, so they are useless to me .

[El°HYM]

Plugin! None of the hardware options have patch memory, so they are useless.

How can it not sound thin and weak if you havent put your STA - enhancer on it, already.

[sQeetz]

Let me correct that for you ,

Adding a "to me" to everything BONES says might be a good idea for some kind of forum bot?

BTW: On topic (kinda): also bought Oddity3... Nice little thing that is Sounds really cool and is easy to program.

[electro]

The only important comparisons are versus OG hardware. Korg and Behringer hardware may come close to OG hardware also but still have differences.

I know, it was $40 wasted. It sounds so weak and thin next to Korg's ARP Odyssey. I'll never use it.

Korg ARP Odyssey hardware or plugin?

[dune_rave]

[BONES]

Plugin! None of the hardware options have patch memory, so they are useless to me .

You, me, everyone. That's the sort of thing we put up with when we had to, 40-50 years ago. But it's 2022 and we have much better options today, making ancient shit like that useless, despite ARP's best efforts to make it easy to patch on stage. (That's why it has such a weird layout, apparently.)

How can it not sound thin and weak if you havent put your STA - enhancer on it, already.

Don't you worry, STA Enhancer is on the Master. If I want to fatten up an instrument, I have Oligarc. It's positively evil!

The only important comparisons are versus OG hardware. Korg and Behringer hardware may come close to OG hardware also but still have differences.

Possibly but those differences would not be as great as the variations between individual units of the original, making it irrelevant. i.e. You might be able to say it has differences to one specific unit but it's possible that it is a perfect emulation of a different unit. You simply can't know.

[El°HYM]

Plugin! None of the hardware options have patch memory, so they are useless to me .

You, me, everyone. That's the sort of thing we put up with when we had to, 40-50 years ago. But it's 2022 and we have much better options today, making ancient shit like that useless, despite ARP's best efforts to make it easy to patch on stage. (That's why it has such a weird layout, apparently.)

#KIDSTOO

How can it not sound thin and weak if you havent put your STA - enhancer on it, already.

Don't you worry, STA Enhancer is on the Master. If I want to fatten up an instrument, I have Oligarc. It's positively evil!

#METOO

The only important comparisons are versus OG hardware. Korg and Behringer hardware may come close to OG hardware also but still have differences.

Possibly but those differences would not be as great as the variations between individual units of the original, making it irrelevant. i.e. You might be able to say it has differences to one specific unit but it's possible that it is a perfect emulation of a different unit. You simply can't know.

#WETOO

[Erik_Lucas]

Plugin! None of the hardware options have patch memory, so they are useless to me .

You, me, everyone. That's the sort of thing we put up with when we had to, 40-50 years ago. But it's 2022 and we have much better options today, making ancient shit like that useless, despite ARP's best efforts to make it easy to patch on stage. (That's why it has such a weird layout, apparently.)

Cant tell if this is a troll or not.
Patch recall doesn't make-or-break an instrument, especially if the owner's intent for that instrument isn't for a live setting.

[BONES]

Patch recall absolutely makes or breaks an instrument, if you are a working musician. A sound that takes you five minutes to patch is utterly useless on stage. Even if you don't play live, what happens when you just want to listen to an old project, maybe tweak a few things here and there? I still work on songs we wrote 25 years ago, tweaking bits and pieces, playing with arrangements. There is a song on our 2020 album that I wrote in 2003 but it was never quite there. I kept at it and at it until it was finally good enough to go, 17 years later. I couldn't have done that if, every time I wanted to work on it, I had to spend 10 minutes recreating a patch I'd been using on it. It just wouldn't work.

Surely the biggest, most important difference between the music we make and the music we listen to is that our music is alive, it can change over time, get better and better? If you just record it and then put it away forever, why bother in the first place?