RapidComposer v4 beta feedback and discussion (locked)

[magicmusic]

Steinberg no longer supports VST 2, so, maybe it's time to retire it altogether. It's now all about VST3 and VST3i....

I use always vst 2 because presets (from preset browser in DAW) did not see in VST 3 version. if i use VST 3 preset i need do all new. because from vst 2 version did not work in vst 3 version. to avoid make diffrent presets. or is there a way to convert VST 2 version of plugin to VST 3 version ?

[BluGenes]

Steinberg no longer supports VST 2, so, maybe it's time to retire it altogether. It's now all about VST3 and VST3i....

I use always vst 2 because presets (from preset browser in DAW) did not see in VST 3 version. if i use VST 3 preset i need do all new. because from vst 2 version did not work in vst 3 version. to avoid make diffrent presets. or is there a way to convert VST 2 version of plugin to VST 3 version ?

It depends on the people that wrote the VST. If they still support the product, chances are they have newer versions. They have to supply the versions, there is no way of converting them.

If they don't support the product any more, then there is nothing that can be done about it.

Steinberg owns the format, so, everyone has to follow what they say. It's just the way it is.

Where that hurts, is if someone new that comes along and wants to write a new DAW or host application (like RC), they are not permitted to allow use of VST2 at all.

Steinberg publishes the API used to code VST's and they removed that from the latest version. (And the license as well)

[milliondabeat]

Ouch! I'll check FL Studio... The plug-ins work quite well in other hosts.
Resizing the plug-in window is a nightmare because each host does it differently.
It is possible that I should add an FL Studio specific hack...
Please always use the VST3 plug-in, where the VST3 API has some support for resizing the UI.

Thanks,
Attila

the vst3 fixed the window resizing issue, but i think the problem with the regeneration inside fl studio is because the vst isn't receiving the input from the keyboard for some reason, no keyboard shortcuts are working

[lovemusic15]

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This video breaks down some of the great features this has.

[magicmusic]

Steinberg no longer supports VST 2, so, maybe it's time to retire it altogether. It's now all about VST3 and VST3i....

I use always vst 2 because presets (from preset browser in DAW) did not see in VST 3 version. if i use VST 3 preset i need do all new. because from vst 2 version did not work in vst 3 version. to avoid make diffrent presets. or is there a way to convert VST 2 version of plugin to VST 3 version ?

It depends on the people that wrote the VST. If they still support the product, chances are they have newer versions. They have to supply the versions, there is no way of converting them.

If they don't support the product any more, then there is nothing that can be done about it.

Steinberg owns the format, so, everyone has to follow what they say. It's just the way it is.

Where that hurts, is if someone new that comes along and wants to write a new DAW or host application (like RC), they are not permitted to allow use of VST2 at all.

Steinberg publishes the API used to code VST's and they removed that from the latest version. (And the license as well)

the problem is also when the DAW store plugin content for VST 2 in a song, you can not just use VST 3. same happen with the presets you do in the DAW browser. when you use no VST 2 the presets are lost forever. so to save work need keep vst 2 currently i have see no reason to use vst 3 for my old plugins. when there come new plugins with only vst 3 then is not such a problem because for this i have no old presets or songs

[musicdevelopments]

RapidComposer v4.5b10 is available!

I ask everyone to download and try this update. Please report any issues you find, which I'll fix in less than 24 hours. Thank you!

Improvements:

• Reworked MIDI CC editing with curves (exponential or S-curve) or individual events
• Reworked MIDI CC processing with improved precision (floating point values). 14-bit MIDI CC's are supported.
• Add MIDI CC's to phrases and notes (in the Phrase Editor). Controller data are attached to phrases/notes as you move them and can be saved with the phrase.
• Fixed phrase preview issues (not stopping sometimes, hanging notes)

[BluGenes]

Kind of broke the custom CC editing.. you no longer can remove unused CC, or you can't edit a CC name to be more meaningful. You have to guess/remember what they are called now.

[musicdevelopments]

Yes, CC's in the list have standard names that are not editable at the moment.

[magicmusic]

RapidComposer v4.5b10 is available!

I ask everyone to download and try this update. Please report any issues you find, which I'll fix in less than 24 hours. Thank you!

Improvements:

• Reworked MIDI CC editing with curves (exponential or S-curve) or individual events
• Reworked MIDI CC processing with improved precision (floating point values). 14-bit MIDI CC's are supported.
• Add MIDI CC's to phrases and notes (in the Phrase Editor). Controller data are attached to phrases/notes as you move them and can be saved with the phrase.
• Fixed phrase preview issues (not stopping sometimes, hanging notes)

thats great news but it do not work. it crash when i hit play. i notice then there is a audio problem. when i choose asio for all or windows mme . click on testtone rc crash .

the last version i use was 4.5b7 or b8 this work ok and i use it today with a song short before i install the b10 . have you something change in sound card management ?

[Mykyndryd_]

Hi Attila. Same here. Hit play and RC just shuts down.
Vsti does the same. Hit play on the transport on Reaper and RC Vst just crashes (and takes Reaper with it).
I am not experiencing subsequent audio issues like musicmagic has pointed out above.
Sorry.

[musicdevelopments]

RapidComposer v4.5b11 is available!

Thanks for the quick feedback! I am sorry for this crashing bug.

Improvements:

• A crashing bug fixed at the beginning of playback
• [Windows][Plug-ins] Crashing in SONAR and Cakewalk fixed with a workaround. The fix is not fully tested and may affect other hosts.
• Fixed issue with "Limit Note Range" working on transposed phrases

[BluGenes]

Used a random melody and then down arrow to get this...

[magicmusic]

Hi Attila

The B11 work now with sound good. some things i think need to do
when press play for song or play a phrase there need set controllers to default

Did you plan a controller generator ?. then such a controller phrase can add under the melody phrase and it is display the content.

I try do this with current version. when i add controller in a melody phrase edit with phrase editor and delete all notes i can not allways add controller. sometimes work sometimes not. in the composer view this phrase is show as empty and can not transpose for better visibility in relation to the main notes. mostly use controllers on melody notes which are higher than bass. so it is no problem to show then controller info in bass area . so a small controller curve of the actual phrase that have no notes is usefull too. then it is possible to test diffrent presaved controllers in a song easy.

or if it is not much work maybe add controller generator ?

[musicdevelopments]

I still wasn't able to reproduce this
Here the phrase does not go lower than the allowed lowest note.

Used a random melody and then down arrow to get this...

[BluGenes]

I made a video of it, but, don't worry about it right now.. make this low priority..