Graphic EQ Uses?
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- KVRist
- 44 posts since 20 Oct, 2020
I’m on a weird kick lately. I want to keep my DAW workflow as simple as possible so I’m thinking about just using multi-band fixed frequency (maybe 7 band) graphic EQs everywhere. Not just on buses, but on individual tracks.
Anyone use specific EQs like that a lot of places in their workflow?
Anyone use specific EQs like that a lot of places in their workflow?
- KVRAF
- 9578 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space
A parametric equalizer is much better suited for individual tracks. A graphic equalizer is useful for adjusting the balance in a room…
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- KVRAF
- 12496 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
I get less snobby about things the older I get. Years ago, I'd have avoided graphic EQ's like the plague. Nowadays, I realize that not always having freely adjustable Q and frequency points isn't always a benefit. Sometimes it's just faster and easier to work within certain constraints, and graphic EQ's are a great example of that. They're not surgical, but if you don't need surgical, then they're just another way to make something brighter or darker or cut/boost some mids, etc. For tone shaping, it's usually not a huge deal whether you're cutting 405hz exactly on a parametric EQ versus a fixed 380hz on a graphic EQ. You got some mud in there and just need to clear it out.
- addled muppet weed
- 111320 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
just do it!
then if you like it, its fine, it not you change it.
no right answers, only the right choice for you.
then if you like it, its fine, it not you change it.
no right answers, only the right choice for you.
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- KVRAF
- 8723 posts since 24 May, 2002 from Tutukaka, New Zealand
Not sure how it makes workflow easier? 7 sliders instead of 5 knobs (if you're one of those who low cut everything). With parametric Eq often you only need the one band, which makes it only 3 knobs. The longer I've been doing it, the more convinced I am that too much Eqing is a destructive obsession anyway. A common complaint is how thin modern digital mixes sound - partly because we Eq everything to within an inch of its life. Didn't used to do that on desks in the bad old analogue world (low cutting was available but not de rigueur). So even if you do Eq everything, a graphic isn't streamlined...possibly even more complicated. Possibly your workflow problems are precisely because you have too much workflow?
- addled muppet weed
- 111320 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
no!kritikon wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:11 pm Not sure how it makes workflow easier? 7 sliders instead of 5 knobs (if you're one of those who low cut everything). With parametric Eq often you only need the one band, which makes it only 3 knobs. The longer I've been doing it, the more convinced I am that too much Eqing is a destructive obsession anyway. A common complaint is how thin modern digital mixes sound - partly because we Eq everything to within an inch of its life. Didn't used to do that on desks in the bad old analogue world (low cutting was available but not de rigueur). So even if you do Eq everything, a graphic isn't streamlined...possibly even more complicated. Possibly your workflow problems are precisely because you have too much workflow?
the problem with a lot of modern music is much simpler to understand
too much precision, delay times calculated to 10 decimal places
use your bloody ears not a calculator
psa.
- KVRAF
- 12234 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
This!vurt wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:51 pm just do it!
then if you like it, its fine, it not you change it.
no right answers, only the right choice for you.
I love how musicians are all for thinking outside the box, swimming against the current, doing your own thang, etc., until someone says they’re going to use a graphic EQ instead of a parametric one and other musicians tell them it’s wrong.
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- KVRAF
- 8723 posts since 24 May, 2002 from Tutukaka, New Zealand
What's the psa mean at the end? Your prostate playing up or something?vurt wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:15 pmno!kritikon wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:11 pm Not sure how it makes workflow easier? 7 sliders instead of 5 knobs (if you're one of those who low cut everything). With parametric Eq often you only need the one band, which makes it only 3 knobs. The longer I've been doing it, the more convinced I am that too much Eqing is a destructive obsession anyway. A common complaint is how thin modern digital mixes sound - partly because we Eq everything to within an inch of its life. Didn't used to do that on desks in the bad old analogue world (low cutting was available but not de rigueur). So even if you do Eq everything, a graphic isn't streamlined...possibly even more complicated. Possibly your workflow problems are precisely because you have too much workflow?
the problem with a lot of modern music is much simpler to understand
too much precision, delay times calculated to 10 decimal places
use your bloody ears not a calculator
psa.
- addled muppet weed
- 111320 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
many years ago, i would record in to a ghetto blaster line input.cryophonik wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:17 pmThis!vurt wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:51 pm just do it!
then if you like it, its fine, it not you change it.
no right answers, only the right choice for you.
I love how musicians are all for thinking outside the box, swimming against the current, doing your own thang, etc., until someone says they’re going to use a graphic EQ instead of a parametric one and other musicians tell them it’s wrong.![]()
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using 2 guitar pedal eqs as the final step for stereo out of my tape deck
- addled muppet weed
- 111320 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
public service announcement.kritikon wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:19 pmWhat's the psa mean at the end? Your prostate playing up or something?vurt wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:15 pmno!kritikon wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:11 pm Not sure how it makes workflow easier? 7 sliders instead of 5 knobs (if you're one of those who low cut everything). With parametric Eq often you only need the one band, which makes it only 3 knobs. The longer I've been doing it, the more convinced I am that too much Eqing is a destructive obsession anyway. A common complaint is how thin modern digital mixes sound - partly because we Eq everything to within an inch of its life. Didn't used to do that on desks in the bad old analogue world (low cutting was available but not de rigueur). So even if you do Eq everything, a graphic isn't streamlined...possibly even more complicated. Possibly your workflow problems are precisely because you have too much workflow?
the problem with a lot of modern music is much simpler to understand
too much precision, delay times calculated to 10 decimal places
use your bloody ears not a calculator
psa.
prostate is very relaxed, i have a massager ..
- KVRAF
- 12234 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
That’s wrong. You should have used Pro Tools.vurt wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:21 pmmany years ago, i would record in to a ghetto blaster line input.cryophonik wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:17 pmThis!vurt wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:51 pm just do it!
then if you like it, its fine, it not you change it.
no right answers, only the right choice for you.
I love how musicians are all for thinking outside the box, swimming against the current, doing your own thang, etc., until someone says they’re going to use a graphic EQ instead of a parametric one and other musicians tell them it’s wrong.![]()
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using 2 guitar pedal eqs as the final step for stereo out of my tape deck
Logic Pro | LUNA Pro | OB-X8 | Prophet 6 | OB-6 | Rev2 | TEO-5 | Pro 3 | SE-1X | Minitaur | Deepmind 12D | Slim Phatty | TR-1000 | Analog RYTM mk2 | Digitakt 2 | TD-3 MO | TD-3 | Maschine+
- addled muppet weed
- 111320 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
in all honesty, at that point in time, had you suggested a computer, id have cooked and eaten you.cryophonik wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:31 pmThat’s wrong. You should have used Pro Tools.vurt wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:21 pmmany years ago, i would record in to a ghetto blaster line input.cryophonik wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:17 pmThis!vurt wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:51 pm just do it!
then if you like it, its fine, it not you change it.
no right answers, only the right choice for you.
I love how musicians are all for thinking outside the box, swimming against the current, doing your own thang, etc., until someone says they’re going to use a graphic EQ instead of a parametric one and other musicians tell them it’s wrong.![]()
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using 2 guitar pedal eqs as the final step for stereo out of my tape deck
i was very into my death metal, computers where not in my wheelhouse.
