Inear Display Interstice: dual-band delay

[kidslow]

Announced the other day to the Inear newsletter, with intro price. My kind of thing. Unfortunately no trial, and only one audio demo track. Didn't realize that Thomas Hennebert was also the developer behind Glitchmachines. I generally like his work.

Write up in Synth Anatomy:
https://www.synthanatomy.com/2022/11/in ... ances.html

Could you get the same result with a band splitter plus delays? Not sure how you'd duplicate the diffusion and damping of the feedback path. I haven't been able to find anything similar ... or really any multiband delays, except W.A. Production's Multibender, which seems like it could be duplicated with a band splitter plus delay on each band. A comment in the above article refers to beta Spirals by Danial Gergely. Although doesn't appear to be entirely the same, is in the same vein.

[EDIT: I'm wondering how much this overlaps sound-wise with some granular delays. Lack of trial is not a deal killer at the intro price, but may slow it down. Says intro price is until Nov 20, but he also has run ~50% off sales annually.]

[fairlyclose]

Blue Cat's Late Replies going through their MB-7 bandsplitter could possibly do it - but if this is what you are after then why bother when the intro price is so reasonable

[kidslow]

Can't tell if it is what I'm after based on a single audio example, a review, and skimming the product manual. In the ballpark. A downloadable trial version would tell me, but alas. Thanks for the suggestion on Blue Cat, but overkill for my needs. Good to know that option exists.

[Funky40]

hmmm, i had to.....

just 15$, ok. But not convinced.

i ONLY checked with Piano (Pteq), nothing other.
I´d say thats a useful tool for folks who make music for theater,......or film.
it definitly has its own footprint and sweetspot area........and its usefullness.
but for common music productions ?
i´m overall quite underwhelmed by this tool vs. what it delivers vs. what you would expect from paper specs.
for common music making where not "that specific" sound IS asked for ?
i´d guess most folks would reach for other FX in the creative area.


just tested it. not for too long. ( = one session)
i had fun sounds to play, and personally find its speciality lies in its Drift parameter,
which is like an LFO modulating the pitch shifter -sort of thing-.
the resonator is not what i had expected. ....underwhelming for me. YMMV
as sayed: shurely great for theater or film music or similar.......or that special intro on your next song.
all sounds i liked to play with, do i see fit there.
( presets would not load / the random button can help to find some places, respectivly to understand it quickly, vs. what settings work/fit best )

[kidslow]

I´d say thats a useful tool for folks who make music for theater,......or film.
it definitly has its own footprint and sweetspot area........and its usefullness.
but for common music productions ?
i´m overall quite underwhelmed by this tool vs. what it delivers vs. what you would expect from paper specs.

Thanks for reporting back on your experience Funky40. I'm not a film composer, but I work with them. My use case would be for sound design and mixing in film. Also for noodling around on ambient works of my own just for fun. Definitely not common music productions here.

[Funky40]

. Also for noodling around on ambient works of my own just for fun.

thats where i´m in. Noodling around for fun. Realtime-play sounddesign.

Definitely not common music productions here.

yeah, me either.


for Fun with FX, would people like us head for other stuff, usually.
----> but ending up in completly different corners, i´d suspect. Soundwise.
To copy this FX^ fun side vs. folks as us (my personal fun side) , would VCV Rack + some patching be the way to head. Yet, beeing way more laborious, But: at the end of the day, also more controllable, if donne right, with all the CC mappings donne either.
I do not care for the resonator part on this FX.
the INA-GRM Tools are in general the way more powerful tools.
Yet again, the sound you end up, would be different

so, just to have it as a quick to dial in foot print, to copy that later on more complex FX, could make sense too.

What i personally dislike is, when i have to add another manufacturer to the plugin list !
spending those 15$ is ok. afterwards i know more.......

[kidslow]

so, just to have it as a quick to dial in foot print, to copy that later on more complex FX, could make sense too.

Enough reason to have a plugin and perfectly valid use case. I appreciate the simple front panel to this effect. That is one of the attractions. VCV Rack is not a direction I want to go with my time. It would eat it all up, I know. I am still wondering if I could get a similar sound from a granular delay. Would have to sit down and try.

I'm leaning towards buying it because this conversation has already inspired me. I think the developer would be open to constructive feedback about the resonator, if you can explain to him what doesn't work for you.

Inear is already on my manufacture list from other plugins, but I completely understand where you're coming from. Installed but not yet used Litote CM and downloaded and played a little with Regressif, which is an interesting little bitcrusher. I need to play more with those to decide whether I keep them (or upgrade to full Litote).

[fairlyclose]

Can't tell if it is what I'm after based on a single audio example, a review, and skimming the product manual. In the ballpark. A downloadable trial version would tell me, but alas. Thanks for the suggestion on Blue Cat, but overkill for my needs. Good to know that option exists.

Late Replies is a bit of a brute that is for sure - but MB-7 is worth a look as a band splitter that can host any of your other plugins on a per band basis that is easy to use and understand. Worth considering if you are looking for multiband fx in general

[Funky40]

I am still wondering if I could get a similar sound from a granular delay. Would have to sit down and try.

point is, if you have this plugin, would you find out quickly what you like.
"then" you can try to achive that elsewhere.
The U-HE MFM might be able to give what i like.
But: if you start directly with those complex tools ? You won´t land there, much likely.

For the resonating part, yes, just try a delay. Check out the Chow delay ( freeware).
its behave/parametrisation in the low ms values is suited for such uses. and it incorporates filters,....and you can have several delays in series.
i made experiments, and used to create morph controls on such type of stuff.
unfortunatedly do i lose the midii CC mapping in my host with the chow delay ( respectivly is there a inbetween level involved, which loses contact when doing bigger morphs)

I use VCV Rack ONLY as a FX ! and only in "very specific"territories.
I completly get your point
i restrict myself also drastically vs. how far i would take it. FX only ! and only stuff i know.....or know the patch as such allready, that i would want to achive!.....no experiments or so.

[jens]

Just a side-note: if you need any sort of multiband (or any combo of mutliband- and parallel-split and/or MS) for any sort of plugin (VST3) combination you can always use the free (for customers) Waves Multirack.

[Neon Breath]

Very poor audio demo. I don't understand why anyone would buy it just based on this audio example. Too bad, I like Inear Display as a developer, but I can't justify (anymore) buying stuff blindly, even at 15$ or 20$.

[kidslow]

He has put a trial version up on the site, so will sit down this weekend and check it out.

[pekbro]

I bought this automatically upon release, as I always do with his plugins. I like it a lot myself
*I am a big fan of Inear Display/glitchmachines though, and have every one of his plugins. Never
been disappointed either, both Thomas and Ivo are great imo.

*For those who are not aware, Thomas is the developer for both Inear Display and Glitchmachines,
Ivo is the sound designer...

[kidslow]

I took the trial for a spin, and I do like what it does with a drum beat. Played around with a loop of congas for awhile, and doubt I'm using the terms correctly, but accentuated undertone and overtone to the drums. Not as a traditional delay would, not ringing, but texture ... almost you could say extra notes that feel very natural to my ears. I really appreciate the UI on this, how effortless it is to tune the sound. Got tired of the periodic noise in the demo so I bought it.

Tried to roll up my own multiband delay using a variety of delay plugins and only sort of got in the ballpark as far as that same texture, but I did like what I got out of Objeq Delay + Lagrange. I dialed them way back and could almost imagine with an LFO I'd probably get there, but with heck of a lot more work. The Drift on this is its magic sauce.

Did a quick compare with Devious Machines Texture, which is the closest thing in my toolkit to what I'm getting with Interstice on drums. If you split into dual-band and ran Texture over each of the bands, I'm sure you could duplicate this or even improve on it, but not easily.