Does anyone use Jam Origin's MIDI Guitar 2? Looking for reviews and impressions

[samesung]

What the title says. I'm considering buying it some time in the future and I'm wondering if it works as promised. I'm very interested in how it handles chords and dynamics (MIDI velocity). If anyone can give me firsthand details, I'd appreciate it

[nix808]

I would try the demo if it has one

Last time I used it I was very impressed, but that was a while ago and I don't know if I tested beyond doubt

-like I say it seemed almost a little magic

I think they run 6 lines of monophonic detector, and amplify the difference with filters then spectrally also possibly

[wasi]

I use it in phases and am always blown away by how well it works.

It's not perfect, I mean if you want to replace a keyboard or Linnstrument with it you're miles away, but if you learn its constraints and play within them it truly does feel like magic. But then on guitar we're talking four notes at a time so you're not going to be playing any actual two-handed piano or synth parts anyway.

Frankly as a guitarist I feel it's a must-have plugin regardless of any shortcomings. There's simply nothing else like it and having the option to just turn your guitar signal into midi practically in real time is invaluable.

[whassup]

I bought it several years ago and always had a too long latency for comfortably using it. Even though my buffers were small enough for comfortable synth/guitar playing otherwise. Have to try it again to see if this changed for whatever reason.

[stk]

I use it regularly. It's pretty magical as long as you play with some restraint and give it something realistic to work with (ie 600bpm shredding won't spark much joy, but nobody needs to hear that anyway).
You need to be aware of the limitations of pitch and dynamics detection - need to play with some precision and care, if you want clean triggering.

For what I use it for - mono/duophonic synth lead lines, and layering pads under ambient guitar work - it's wonderful.

I've also used it in live performance a number of times and it's always been rock solid. Triggering Kontakt and Repro 5.

Cheers

[Dirk Diggler]

Also have used it for years, and it works incredibly well with piezo pickups as well.
A reasonable system should have no noticeable latency if configured properly.
Certainly like other systems you do need to work with your playing cleanly.

Considering the comparative cost to hardware, it's worth trying. I found it better than hardware solutions.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

I don't think there's an M1 Native version out yet, and they've been working on MIDI Guitar 3 for some time now. Personally, I wouldn't use this as an every day plugin, so I'm taking a wait and see with what version 3 will eventually offer.

[samesung]

I use Windows so M1 support is not really important to me, but thanks for the feedback about mk3 being in the works. I am extremely interested in the plugin especially for the monophonic lines because I suck at the keyboards.

It's nice to hear the plugin works great. I never figured how the 13-pin connectors work anyways - I was always under the impression I had to have a hardware unit it goes to and I'm limited to the sounds it contains. But I want to use the sounds I have on my soft synths etc and not spend additional money on hardware.

Question for people who used it with piezo pickups - could you assess how much better note detection and dynamics detection is compared to regular pickups? I feel like it should be a substantial difference, piezo feeding six independent pieces of information, one for each string, whereas I can't even guess how it works with regular pickups.

[werp]

There's always the hardware version made by Sonuus of Sonuus Wahoo and Sonuus Voluum fame.
I think it's called the Sonuus G2M guitar to MIDI converter....

I also own the Jam Origin app but I haven't used it for ages. It was an instabuy for me when it was first released...

[Dirk Diggler]

Sonuus G2M is mono only, not even close.

[VariKusBrainZ]

The Wahoo is awesome tho, the ultimate wah

[subterfuge]

I bought it several years ago and always had a too long latency for comfortably using it. Even though my buffers were small enough for comfortable synth/guitar playing otherwise.

Same here. Even with the lowest latency settings, it has lagged so bad it's no good for much else than long drones and pads. I've had easier time recording DI guitar with regular amp sounds and then using it to convert to MIDI and adjusting, but that gets old fast. Have to also forget any possible playing expressions doing it that way, because you don't hear them live and there's no predicting how they behave afterwards. Minor seconds? Yea, no, play just single notes.

Last fortress, guitar to MIDI, it seems. Never tried, but I get the feeling hardware sensors per string would work better. Totally possible that my settings and playing technique are not best possible or even adequate for it either. Other than latency settings that is, they are already the lowest possible.

This is definitely something potential buyers need to test themselves. There's a free trial available.

[Psyclapse]

I demoed it a few years ago and thought it was ok-ish but not great. I was gonna buy it nevertheless and it was about £70/$70 or something like that which I thought was reasonable for what it could do. But then a few months later when I actually had some spare cash to buy it I discovered the price had literally doubled to £150/$150!! Definitely not worth it for that. And they've been promising a version 3 for about 3 years now but it never seems to get any nearer so I've given up on it. AFAIK its never on sale either.

[spacepluk]

I used it for a while but any midi keyboard will do a better job and be less finicky. Also no license transfers last time I asked them.

[samesung]

Maybe that free trial is the way to go. I'll check it out and see about the latency. That video on the product page with the guitarist sounded compelling, but I guess I better try it on my system first. I was hoping there'd be a black friday discount, 150$ ain't cheap.