KVR Audio

hurricaneaudiolab · Post by **hurricaneaudiolab** » Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:16 pm

Niowiad wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 6:42 pm
hurricaneaudiolab wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 6:29 pm "Lastly, of course, this amazing instrument is shipped with 5000+ Presets by Rob himself and well-known industry sound designers."

Yeah but how many of those are brand new BLUE III presets.
Blue3 can import/convert presets from v1 and v2.
The Blue2 product page currently says 4500+ presets, and if that number is still valid, it suggests around 500 new presets made for Blue3

I asked them and they said it's between 150-200 brand new presets with more to follow in the coming weeks.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:20 pm

I would love to upgrade to Blue III but I guess I have to wait till Explorer 8 is out as I bought 7 last week in the sale

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:28 pm

I was really looking forward to upgrading to Blue III but my old Blue II license was wrapped up in my Sound Design X bundle license and I don't see an upgrade offer.

I hate to bother them today as I'm sure they're slammed and I don't even think the release was supposed to happen until tomorrow.

Oh well I can still give the demo a go but I'm almost positive I'll do the upgrade....if I qualify.

Korg Supporter · Post by **Korg Supporter** » Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:46 pm

My problem with Blue III is, why is the GUI so damn choppy? Are the GUIs of Predator and Blue 3 choppy on your Windows 10/11 computer?

Echoes in the Attic · Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:55 pm

Korg Supporter wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:46 pm My problem with Blue III is, why is the GUI so damn choppy? Are the GUIs of Predator and Blue 3 choppy on your Windows 10/11 computer?

I've noticed this a bit as well. Like the visual have a bit of choppy lag sometimes when you move controls?

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:07 am

I don't see any lag issues with the Blue III demo. You can try turning off "Dial/Slider Animations" from the drop down menu to see if that helps.

If I remember correctly it was a reported issue when Predator 3 was first released and they fairly quickly released an update.

So if you're having lag issues contact support and let them know.

AsgardBS · Post by **AsgardBS** » Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:14 am

I never heard of Rob Papen until recently. Can someone explain me the hype around Rob Papen synth? This look like the most niche synth community.

What does BLUE II/BLUE III compare to other existing synth out there? What does it make it more preferable to other alternative (and what synth are most similar to it)?

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:21 am

There is a freely available demo version. Install it and find out for yourself.

I'm trying the demo right now and I love it....you may too or you may not but nothing anyone can tell you is going to be as valuable as trying it out for yourself.

AsgardBS · Post by **AsgardBS** » Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:28 am

Also, if we buy it now, do we still get the upgrade for BLUE III free?

Boy Wonder · Post by **Boy Wonder** » Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:06 am

Blue III looks interesting. I have to give the demo a looksee. Soft synths are so powerful these days with so many features. Hopefully, my laptop doesn't reject it.

Korg Supporter · Post by **Korg Supporter** » Wed Nov 16, 2022 2:44 am

Teksonik wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:07 am I don't see any lag issues with the Blue III demo. You can try turning off "Dial/Slider Animations" from the drop down menu to see if that helps.

If I remember correctly it was a reported issue when Predator 3 was first released and they fairly quickly released an update.

So if you're having lag issues contact support and let them know.

The knobs move smoothly, but they are at 30 FPS. It's the animation for the XY pad that is noticeably lagging.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:56 am

Well then like i said report it to support. It's a non-issue here.

cryophonik · Post by **cryophonik** » Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:04 am

AsgardBS wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:14 am I never heard of Rob Papen until recently. Can someone explain me the hype around Rob Papen synth? This look like the most niche synth community.

What does BLUE II/BLUE III compare to other existing synth out there? What does it make it more preferable to other alternative (and what synth are most similar to it)?

Rob Papen is a pretty much a veteran in sound design and synth development and has been making soft synths for decades. Blue started out as primarily an FM synth similar to FM7, Rhino, etc. but has evolved even further beyond that and now covers many different synthesis types. As mentioned, download the demo and try it. You’ve probably never used anything like it, so maybe you’ll love it.

dune_rave · Post by **dune_rave** » Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:29 am

AsgardBS wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:14 am I never heard of Rob Papen until recently. Can someone explain me the hype around Rob Papen synth? This look like the most niche synth community.

What does BLUE II/BLUE III compare to other existing synth out there? What does it make it more preferable to other alternative (and what synth are most similar to it)?

Rob Papen is well known, because in the past Rob and Linplug made the synth plugin: Albino. Unfortunately This common development ended, and Albino was abandoned. Later Rob made a synth that contains some of the Albino spirit, and that was Predator. And many other synths and effects was created later so at one point the Explorer bundle was born. Mainly Blue and Predator can be considered as flagship synths. These synths have many super great sounds (like Omnisphere), but if you are after interactive GUI like Vital or Pigments, you won't get that 100%. The gui reflects their philosophy: the most important thing is to create sounds to inspire music makers.
In the past I owned a previous explorer, the product support is great, and it has its own sound. You can demo these plugins and decide it's for you or not.
I may risk this statement: Rob Papen explorer bundle is better sounding than Arturia V Collection.

AsgardBS · Post by **AsgardBS** » Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:39 am

cryophonik wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:04 am
AsgardBS wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:14 am I never heard of Rob Papen until recently. Can someone explain me the hype around Rob Papen synth? This look like the most niche synth community.

What does BLUE II/BLUE III compare to other existing synth out there? What does it make it more preferable to other alternative (and what synth are most similar to it)?
Rob Papen is a pretty much a veteran in sound design and synth development and has been making soft synths for decades. Blue started out as primarily an FM synth similar to FM7, Rhino, etc. but has evolved even further beyond that and now covers many different synthesis types. As mentioned, download the demo and try it. You’ve probably never used anything like it, so maybe you’ll love it.

Took some more interest in BLUE II in the past week just because its one of the few "modern" FM synth that still has the mod matrix...

FM synth are very rare these day, or at least, classic FM synth with algorithm or mod matrix (only opsix and e'fm are the other one I know that still do classic FM)...
Sytrus is outdated (cannot run it on a Mac except if running FL studio, they don't sell a mac OS vst, and don't see it as a first class product anymore but more as a built in FL studio plugin)
FM8 is outdated
Not interested in a dx7 clone
...

Unsure if there are other FM synth out there, if so which one?

Rob Papen Blue 3 up