reFX Vanguard 2?

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Markus Krause wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:26 pm In Vanguard I did code the waveforms/wavetables/oscillators, the filters, big parts of the audio-engine and one of the factory banks. Mike did the graphics, the arpeggiator, the marketing and the website.
We also got a contract for Vanguard2 where reFX licensed my old sourcecodes.
Glad it worked out and I hope you got a fair deal out of this, Markus. Vanguard was one of my first soft synth purchases and, even though the last thing I need right now is another soft synth, it's been a long time since I've been this excited about a new one. :party:

Now, if I could just find my old registration info from, what? 18 years ago?! :cry: :lol:
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its here, vanguard 2, but just 20% off BF sale,,,shame

https://refx.com/vanguard/

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As someone who don't know much about Vanguard 1, can someone tell me what exactly is Vanguard. Is this a synth or a rompler? If it's a synth why it has such a reputation? And is it worth buying Vanguard 2 for $79? (I already have Pigments and Serum)

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no demo?

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Yeah, without knowing Vanguard 1 and without a demo, it might be hard for you to judge about the benefit...
Maybe this video can help:

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Lbdunequest wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:32 am no demo?
- There is a demo.

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Markus Krause wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:26 pm In Vanguard I did code the waveforms/wavetables/oscillators, the filters, big parts of the audio-engine and one of the factory banks. Mike did the graphics, the arpeggiator, the marketing and the website.
We also got a contract for Vanguard2 where reFX licensed my old sourcecodes.
So seeing that Vanguard 2 is now live, I'm assuming this means that disputes have been cleared up? I don' expect you to answer that, btw. Regardless, I hope so because I immediately bought it and I'd hate to find out you aren't getting properly compensated for your work.

Will there be an option to change skins on this at some point? The default one is not too great imho.

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dj.anti.matter wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 3:40 pm Will there be an option to change skins on this at some point? The default one is not too great imho.
Yes, it uses same skin format as Nexus, so if you are Nexus owner just copy all the skins over, or make your own.

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dj.anti.matter wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 3:30 pm
Lbdunequest wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:32 am no demo?
- There is a demo.
That's not a demo.

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Fornicras wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:24 am As someone who don't know much about Vanguard 1, can someone tell me what exactly is Vanguard. Is this a synth or a rompler? If it's a synth why it has such a reputation? And is it worth buying Vanguard 2 for $79? (I already have Pigments and Serum)
It's a VST with a gritty/nasal sound.

This vid sums it up nicely,


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just a thought.... purchased V2 yesterday and it was causing Live to hang, contacted reFX support and they were absolutely brilliant, within 8 hours a fix was published. I've never experienced that kind of speed and excellence. Normally it's 1. something you've done 2. someone else's software 3. we'll fix it somewhen.

If you want value for money personified reFX certainly is worth a thought.

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good to know. thanks.

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Markus Krause wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 1:13 pm This would be a break of the contract. I'd take legal actions. The synth would also not be properly downward compatible because it does not longer sound the same
Since they have trademarks for the name Vanguard, they could have made it downward compatible without reusing your old source code. There are special tools for reverse engineering software and these produce bit accurate results. But in the end I think it was cheaper to license the old code.
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If this was just asked sorry ...

I updated to Vanguard 2 and now in every track I ever made with Vanguard 1 the sounds are not working? I thought this is full backward compatible? This shit kills many tracks?

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I uninstalled Vanguard 2 and reinstalled the old 1 version, now all sounds working fine. So, Vanguard 2 is NOT backward compatible!
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clipnotic wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 3:49 pm If this was just asked sorry ...

I updated to Vanguard 2 and now in every track I ever made with Vanguard 1 the sounds are not working? I thought this is full backward compatible? This shit kills many tracks?

EDIT:
I uninstalled Vanguard 2 and reinstalled the old 1 version, now all sounds working fine. So, Vanguard 2 is NOT backward compatible!
can someone confirm? i wanted to install v2 very soon too.
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