How legal is it to remixe somebody else's work?
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- KVRist
- 107 posts since 6 Jul, 2003 from ME
How legal is it to remixe somebody else's work and play it on TV or on the radio?
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- KVRian
- 534 posts since 18 Mar, 2002 from france
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 107 posts since 6 Jul, 2003 from ME
I see! Does that also apply to any peice of music which i like to show on TV,radio if it's not put freely in the net?!
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- KVRAF
- 1601 posts since 24 Jun, 2004 from Australia
Technically and legally, you are not allowed to play/perform/use/whatever copyrighted pieces without permission from the copyright holder.
Every track on and off the web, free or not, is copyrighted (well, in the major countries). Some people might say on their website that their music can be used however anyone wishes, in which case you have the right to because the copyright holder has given permission, but most don't do that.
I'd say if it's a free track online and you didn't ask, but you played them and gave them credit and a link to their webpage or whatever, the artist would probably thank you rather than sue you. But if you took credit for it without giving any indication that someone else made it, then someone's going to want to kill you.
Every track on and off the web, free or not, is copyrighted (well, in the major countries). Some people might say on their website that their music can be used however anyone wishes, in which case you have the right to because the copyright holder has given permission, but most don't do that.
I'd say if it's a free track online and you didn't ask, but you played them and gave them credit and a link to their webpage or whatever, the artist would probably thank you rather than sue you. But if you took credit for it without giving any indication that someone else made it, then someone's going to want to kill you.
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- KVRist
- 75 posts since 18 Oct, 2004 from Providence
Yes unless you have written permission, on real peice of paper that has the John Hancock on it, never even try!
I know as my roomate works on the radio (FM) that the place has a kinda umbrella deal, where they can use most stuff without asking. Liek snippets of stuff in comercials, I also know there is some kind of 10 second rule, he talks about? Where if you only use 10 or less seconds it doesent apply?
This may only be with his clearchannel radio station, and like I said stay away, unless its in black and white, not e-mail...
My 2 cents, o yeah and if its a indepentant artist make a cloause in the contract that you are not responsible for any uncleared samples they may have used!
Just in case!
I know as my roomate works on the radio (FM) that the place has a kinda umbrella deal, where they can use most stuff without asking. Liek snippets of stuff in comercials, I also know there is some kind of 10 second rule, he talks about? Where if you only use 10 or less seconds it doesent apply?
This may only be with his clearchannel radio station, and like I said stay away, unless its in black and white, not e-mail...
My 2 cents, o yeah and if its a indepentant artist make a cloause in the contract that you are not responsible for any uncleared samples they may have used!
Just in case!
- KVRAF
- 1601 posts since 24 Jun, 2004 from Australia
Dunno about those sorts of rules, I've heard that they apply and that they don't and I'm never sure what to believe.
It's quite possible that those rules are technically illegal, but that because they are short there is little possibility that anyone will bother to follow up with the law, because they feel it isn't worth the money for such a small snippet.
Depends, though.
It's quite possible that those rules are technically illegal, but that because they are short there is little possibility that anyone will bother to follow up with the law, because they feel it isn't worth the money for such a small snippet.
Depends, though.
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- KVRist
- 75 posts since 18 Oct, 2004 from Providence
yeah, i would always err on the side of saftey...
I'll talk to him and if I remeber this thread I'll post what he says verbatim, thats if this isnt already forgotten and pushed away lol
MD
I'll talk to him and if I remeber this thread I'll post what he says verbatim, thats if this isnt already forgotten and pushed away lol
MD
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 107 posts since 6 Jul, 2003 from ME
Thanks everyone for these infoz. I was about to put up a remixe of a famous song on TV channel
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- KVRAF
- 1981 posts since 26 Oct, 2003 from Toronto
Actually Ahmed, if the TV Station is recognized/affiliated with ASCAP/BMI/Harry Fox royalty collection agency's, you might not need to worry too much?
Yes, it would be nice to get permission first by all means from the artist. But usually with TV, radio - you should fill out and submit a 'log sheet' of music used in your program. Whether it's Fatboy Slim to vurt - jot in the title, author, duration used, and send it to ASCAP or wherever. If Fatboy or vurt suddenly get a cheque from SESAC (if THEY are properly affiliated?) in the amount of $56.73, and wonder where or why - they can check and trace at SESAC or wherever to find out your show and the amount of music used. From there, if vurt or FatBoy demand bigger credits, more money, cease and desist - they and/or their agents will get in touch with you or your producers.
But advanced notification is always best. Saves ALOT of hassle down the road possibly. But I don't think vurt or Fatboy Slim is going to sneeze at a $56.73 bonus cheque because some show named 'Sports Zone' used 00:56 of their music in the background behind Wayne Gretzky slapshots... Now if it's Mario Lemeiux and my music's behind him - I'M SUEING!
Permission, log, and most importantly CREDIT - you should be fine to legally negotiate 'before, during, or after' production.
Yes, it would be nice to get permission first by all means from the artist. But usually with TV, radio - you should fill out and submit a 'log sheet' of music used in your program. Whether it's Fatboy Slim to vurt - jot in the title, author, duration used, and send it to ASCAP or wherever. If Fatboy or vurt suddenly get a cheque from SESAC (if THEY are properly affiliated?) in the amount of $56.73, and wonder where or why - they can check and trace at SESAC or wherever to find out your show and the amount of music used. From there, if vurt or FatBoy demand bigger credits, more money, cease and desist - they and/or their agents will get in touch with you or your producers.
But advanced notification is always best. Saves ALOT of hassle down the road possibly. But I don't think vurt or Fatboy Slim is going to sneeze at a $56.73 bonus cheque because some show named 'Sports Zone' used 00:56 of their music in the background behind Wayne Gretzky slapshots... Now if it's Mario Lemeiux and my music's behind him - I'M SUEING!
Permission, log, and most importantly CREDIT - you should be fine to legally negotiate 'before, during, or after' production.
