why you love/hate trance

[dervish]

I am not hearing any trance music these days which doesn't seem somewhat formulaic.

isn't every music style formulaic ?

If the music in question can actually by classified as a certain style, then I would say yes. If it is a unique fusion of existing styles, and unclassifiable, then I would say no. And then I usually go out and buy it

[Armadillo]

It's the usual. People who don't like Trance think it's about "Oh tell me why, do we build castles in the sky".
Listen to Shpongle, Astral Projection, Infected Mushroom etc. and you are in for a shock.
But I actually like BOTH Trance and RnB. Don't call me close minded.

[CypherOne]

I like neither generally, but often there'll be one track which makes me rethink my stance. Can't think of any examples right now however....

[lion_cub]

[TVD]

1. At least the best hip-hop tracks of the past & present are funky & banging.

You're kidding, right? hip-hop is a joke. Really. C'mon, its dull, boring and the idiots who make it are about as homogenised as they come. Surely its the laughing stock of the music industry?

Public Enemy, 2pac, NWA, LL Cool J, Eric B. & Rakim, The Geto Boyz, KRS-One, Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five, Salt-N-Pepa, Jay-Z, RUN-DMC, OutKast, & Black Eyes Peas were never boring in hip-hop. Ever!!!

Paul Van Dyk in trance on the other hand, boring!!!

No offence Bones, It's time of you to study the old-school American hip-hop from the the 1980's only.
It's way better than most of the rubbish that you seen on MTV.

EDIT Note: Check out this site if you want to know what real hip-hop is all about.

http://www.daveyd.com/

[oblagon]

Trance is mechanical, robotized. That's why i like it. That is also the bane of trance. My bro, who is in a rock band can't stand that. He digs the melodies in trance tracks but he must have some 'swing' in rhythm section. He's '80 guy

[hlmst]

Rnb? LOL Thats just stupid ass sample cd's and cheesy vocals. BORING. Since the effort to produce an average rnb track is prolly 1/10th that of an average tarnce track.

[ObsoleteAcc99]

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[intel]

my brain is exploding.

[psycontinuum]

What's the point of this thread? Just restarting the old arguments?



Best of all, I like music that I like. Music I don't like tends not to get played that much. I won't bother telling you what the music I like is, because you've all probably got your own ideas on what fits into that category and nothing I say will change that.
The rest is just arrogance and snobbery

[advaya]

[/quote]

Public Enemy, 2pac, NWA, LL Cool J, Eric B. & Rakim, The Geto Boyz, KRS-One, Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five, Salt-N-Pepa, Jay-Z, RUN-DMC, OutKast, & Black Eyes Peas were never boring in hip-hop. Ever!!!

Paul Van Dyk in trance on the other hand, boring!!!

No offence Bones, It's time of you to study the old-school American hip-hop from the the 1980's only.
It's way better than most of the rubbish that you seen on MTV.

EDIT Note: Check out this site if you want to know what real hip-hop is all about.

http://www.daveyd.com/[/quote]

C'mon now Tony... saying something like 'musician X is great, while musician Y is boring' is rather subjective huh? If you really think that you are going to sway someone's opinion with statements like that, you are sorely deluding yourself!

The whole trance argument is seemingly endless. I have never seen a genre of music split the listening community, as much as the 'Blair Witch Project' split the movie-buff community...

I will admit to being a closet 'trance fan' but I will agree that the cookie-cutter tracks ala Sandstorm and Robert Miles got a little dull... Ghaaa... the T909 sample hell!

I do really like the new trance that is built upon really heavy and driving breakbeats (DJ Chris Lawrence for example). It has rekindled my fondness of dancefloor tracks...

Bahhh... just my opinion...

[opiadream]

I hate trance because they always use those same old tr909 sounds
I hate rock because they always use those same old boring electric guitar sounds
I hate chill because they always use those same old boring laid-back beats
I hate folk music because they always use those same old boring acoustic guitar sounds
I hate sonata's because they always use those same old boring piano sounds
I hate jazz because they always use those same old boring horn sounds
I hate electronic music because they always use those same old boring synth sounds
I hate symphonic music beacues they always use those same old boring string sections....
etc etc etc

[TVD]

C'mon now Tony... saying something like 'musician X is great, while musician Y is boring' is rather subjective huh? If you really think that you are going to sway someone's opinion with statements like that, you are sorely deluding yourself!

The whole trance argument is seemingly endless. I have never seen a genre of music split the listening community, as much as the 'Blair Witch Project' split the movie-buff community...

I will admit to being a closet 'trance fan' but I will agree that the cookie-cutter tracks ala Sandstorm and Robert Miles got a little dull... Ghaaa... the T909 sample hell!

I do really like the new trance that is built upon really heavy and driving breakbeats (DJ Chris Lawrence for example). It has rekindled my fondness of dancefloor tracks...

Bahhh... just my opinion...

All I'm try to say to you, Bones, or anyone else in general, is that there is no way that we can put trance & hip-hop in the same sentence to begin with.

Bones thinks that all hip-hop was (is) a mistake. I'm just doing my best to help him by showing him that the old-school hip-hop was (and still is IMHO) way better than some of the rubbish on MTV. Period.

As for trance (and I will stand by every last word), most of the tracks from this very genre is not good at all. I already gave specifics back on page 1.

I like to ask you this important question Advaya:

I had a chance to see Christopher Lawrence perform at a rave 2 years ago (Cyberfest 2002). His trance mix was OK my ears.

But seriously, how in the hell can you tell the different between a Christopher Lawrence trance track from a Paul Van Dyk trance track, or a Sandra Collins trance track (especially if most of their mixes sounds the same)?

If House, Breakbeats, & Electro can bring the funk, why not Trance?

[TVD]

Personally, I love trance. But it has to be high quality. Meaningless cheese and crap is NOT what trance is all about and should NOT be called trance.

So what i love about good trance is the fact that it's atmopheric, futuristic, sounds clean and well produced, and th songs are LONG and repetitive. it is very versatile (uplifting, serious, slow, fast, hard, soft) it goes off in a club just as much as in your car, etc. so there really is a type of trance for every mood. So thats what i love about it.

I hate people who think/say that trance is so simple and braindead and all you have to do is 'hold down a few keys' to make it, I've even heard some moron say that they 'could write a program that makes trance' its so simple. Yeah? well have u listened to RnB/Rap lately? Entire songs consist of nothing more than variations of a single loop and some freaky annoying noise/cute element in the background. Yet you never hear people complaining about that.. I've never heard anyone say 'all rnB sounds the same' yet trance gets it all the time... anyways.. time to hear your opinion.

1. At least the best hip-hop tracks of the past & present are funky & banging. I can never say the same things about the best or worst trance tracks.

2. Trance is too predictible. Beautiful string pads. Lush piano parts. But for the most part, most of today trances (import to USA) is basically the same damn beats in the same damn tempo. Will the beats ever change sometimes?

3. Trance is trying too hard to be classical.

Maybe I'm not be fair. But I'm honest.

At least I was specific!

[BONES]

Stop listening to VNV Nation then.

I stopped listening to VNV Nation about 4 years ago. Before that, I hardly ever listened to 'em anyway.