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chk071
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33354 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:59 am

mixyguy2 wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:58 pm
chk071 wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:55 am Most of them are crap though.
Hardly. Many excellent freebies out there.
Name some "excellent" free DAW's. I'm curious.

I tried most of them, and found that none of them can compare with good payware. Cakewalk comes close, but, it still has some down sides IMO.

vurt
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98667 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Post Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:08 am

all the lite versions?
if you don't want me to destroy you
take a leaf out of my book, turn it round and have a look...

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BertKoor
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14247 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland

Post Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:56 am

@chk071: your expectations are not the same as an absolute beginners. Example: linear time or loop based? I say moot at that point.
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mixyguy2
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584 posts since 2 Mar, 2018

Post Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:13 pm

chk071 wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:59 am Name some "excellent" free DAW's. I'm curious.

I tried most of them, and found that none of them can compare with good payware. Cakewalk comes close, but, it still has some down sides IMO.
Hi I'm mixyguy and I can't read. :facepalm: Sorry. I was thinking (and for some reason thought we were talking) plugins, not DAWs. We now return you to your regularly scheduled whatever.

roman.i
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442 posts since 25 Aug, 2019

Post Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:58 pm

whyterabbyt wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:43 am
roman.i wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:34 am If they were so excellent, no reason for paid stuff to exist.
that 'logic' applies both ways. which indicates why its not actually logical.
Free stuff exist because of different reasons, most of them are just a showcase to get a job, or some deprecated bait like Sonar, lite version bait or other types of baits.

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whyterabbyt
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31839 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair

Post Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:36 am

roman.i wrote: Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:58 pm
whyterabbyt wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:43 am
roman.i wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:34 am If they were so excellent, no reason for paid stuff to exist.
that 'logic' applies both ways. which indicates why its not actually logical.
Free stuff exist because of different reasons, most of them are just a showcase to get a job, or some deprecated bait like Sonar, lite version bait or other types of baits.
Most long-term free projects, though, exist to provide equally capable(*) tools as the commercial offerings, but with zero cost.

(* or better)
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Maltinski
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19 posts since 20 Dec, 2022

Post Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:53 pm

Keyboard for midi input - > basic one from m-audio (buy used)
External "audio handler"/soundcard (?) -> simple audio interface from mackie for example (was my first)
Free DAW for midi handling on windows -> ableton intro (you can find a key online for free)

prithg
KVRer
5 posts since 31 May, 2022

Post Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:25 pm

Keyboard for midi input: +1 to M-Audio (KeyStation series is good for beginners)

External "audio handler"/soundcard: I would recommend the Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 (3rd Gen, new). Comes with the Hitmaker expansion software bundle + you receive free software every few months from Focusrite plugin collective so the interface pays for itself (and more) over time... it is basically a gift that keeps giving. :)
https://focusrite.com/en/hitmaker-expansion

Free DAW for Windows: Not free but I really like and recommend FL Studio. Producer version is currently on sale for $150 and the developer offers free updates for life.

Headphones: Audio Technica ATH-M50x (currently on sale for approx. $120 -- great price!!)
If budget allows, pick up studio monitors (used) or the above headphones will go a long way for studio use.

Good luck and have fun producing!

jordanyeo
KVRer
6 posts since 17 Dec, 2022

Post Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:49 am

Highly recommend the newer behringer audio interfaces, my UMC404HD has treated me great, has 4 inputs!

mixyguy2
KVRian
584 posts since 2 Mar, 2018

Post Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:27 pm

prithg wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:25 pm Free DAW for Windows: Not free
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