KVR Audio

Joenco · Post by **Joenco** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 11:05 am

Hello all,

I have a simple question for which I can't find an easy solution.

Let me say I have 2 tracks in a midi file.
Now I want to create a 3th track and automatically generate metronome midi clicks in it. It should follow all tempo changes and meter changes.

Which host can do this automatically.
I have to create many mentronome tracks.

Anybody?

Thank you,

Joenco

lo3q · Post by **lo3q** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 11:25 am

I would guess any host which can output a midi metronome during playback (e.g. Sonar) can do this if you use a MIDI router, like Midi Yoke, to route the metronome channel back into the host, and record it on an empty track. Haven't tried it myself, though...

(http://www.midiox.com/)

This method would require playing each song in real time, not good if you have hundreds to do...

Joenco · Post by **Joenco** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 12:33 pm

Hello,

Thanks for the fast reply

I have thought about this myself but I would like to find another way. Recording it will take as much time as the song is. I would also have to record it again after every simple edit. There should be a faster way.

Thank you again,

Joenco

Joenco · Post by **Joenco** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 12:52 pm

Bump

Thank you

C00kie · Post by **C00kie** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 12:57 pm

Learn this lesson now: always first make a metronome or click-track if your host does not feature a metronome.

On existing material recorded without anything really steady for guidance it is difficult to generate it later.

Joenco · Post by **Joenco** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:03 pm

Hello COOkie,

My host does have a metronome but I want it in the midifile so my students can hear the metronome at home.
They don't have my host.

Thank you,

C00kie · Post by **C00kie** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:10 pm

Make it a midi track: TING tick tick tick TING tick tick tick. Copy & paste (or define a loop) so it is long enough for the song.

Joenco · Post by **Joenco** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:20 pm

Yes I can indeed input it but I'm looking for something to generate a metronome track automatic. Doing it by hand is to time consuming for the purpose I have.

We record midifiles and I would like to hand out the files immediately without my colleagues and students having to wait until I can input a simple midi clicktrack.

There should be a faster way doing this.

C00kie · Post by **C00kie** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:30 pm

Why not let them use a sequencer/host that also has a metronome functionality. That is, if the tempo is set up correct in the files.

Joenco · Post by **Joenco** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:46 pm

COOkie,

Do you know freebies aimed at children from 9 till 99.
The freebie should allow tempo and meter changes.
It should also allow speeding up and slowing down.

We now use vanBasco's Karaoke Player

Thank you,

C00kie · Post by **C00kie** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:00 pm

Tracktion?? Hmmm, haven't actually seen a metronome in that one... Maybe one of the ancient ones, the freebee type that came shipped with the SoundBlaster cards in 1998 that still fitted on one floppy disk. What's it called, MidiWorks, Orchestrator...

lo3q · Post by **lo3q** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:09 pm

Thinking about it again: It would definitely be possible to do this with the CAL scripting language in Sonar. You would need to own a version of Sonar, or Cakewalk, obviously.

Unfortuntately, CAL isn't very easy to use.

You would probably get a real headache trying to do this, unless you're familiar with wierd programming languages like LISP. You could try searching... if you're lucky, maybe somebody has already written a CAL metronome script.

Joenco · Post by **Joenco** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:21 pm

Good idea,

I have an old version of cakewalk.
Maybye such a Cal script have been written before.

Thank you

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:21 pm

What's so timeconsuming in creating a metronome track manually?
Set up one bar, copy it all over the song length and there you go. Eventually merge the copied parts when being done.
Doesn't even take a minute to set this up.
In case you have some signature changes, well, those would need to be corrected manually, but it shouldn't take more than 10 seconds per signature change (shorten/lengthen the metronome bar), so unless you have LOADS of signature changes all the procedure would still be done in under 2 minutes.

Joenco · Post by **Joenco** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:24 pm

Hello Sacha,

I do understand 2 minutes is not long but kids are able to break a class down if they have to wait so long. This is really not possible in a class situation.

Thank you,

Generating metronome track