Plugin to make hihat sound lower in drum loops?

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eluherlu wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 2:06 pm
ramseysounds wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:15 pm
eluherlu wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:34 pm
tehlord wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:09 pm The best solution would be to slice the sample and just lower the hihat hits where possible.
That would be the cleanest solution.. But I'm just lazy lol
As soon as I read this, joking or not, I immediately don’t want to help.
Lol that's okay my friend. Lots of plugins were made to make your workflow faster so you don't lost inspiration aka for lazy people :)

Well all jokes aside, spending a minute or two slicing and rebalancing a loop (as that's all it would take for a single loop) is faster than asking and responding here.

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tehlord wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 5:18 pm
eluherlu wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 2:06 pm
ramseysounds wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:15 pm
eluherlu wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:34 pm
tehlord wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:09 pm The best solution would be to slice the sample and just lower the hihat hits where possible.
That would be the cleanest solution.. But I'm just lazy lol
As soon as I read this, joking or not, I immediately don’t want to help.
Lol that's okay my friend. Lots of plugins were made to make your workflow faster so you don't lost inspiration aka for lazy people :)

Well all jokes aside, spending a minute or two slicing and rebalancing a loop (as that's all it would take for a single loop) is faster than asking and responding here.
Well all jokes aside, what if one simple drum loop is not enough to get the job done?

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Factorsynth seems to be what you are looking for. It's only Max4Live right now, but there will be an update including a VST version soon.
Last edited by jules99 on Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:46 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Have you tried a dynamic EQ/de-esser?

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Unaspected wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:12 pm https://fuseaudiolabs.de/#/pages/product?id=300867907

Might be helpful. Let us know how it performs.
Oh wow. I wish I'd known about this while I was recording my latest album. I use drum loops occasionally, but sometimes some of those loops vary in time (which I can fix in Cubase) but not tightly if the different elements are slightly off. Also, it'd be cool to add reverb just to the snares and hats. And separated, that gives me the option to EQ, pan, compress, etc individual elements.
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eluherlu wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:34 pm
tehlord wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:09 pm The best solution would be to slice the sample and just lower the hihat hits where possible.
That would be the cleanest solution.. But I'm just lazy lol
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Like I've said earlier, I've tried to slice it but the result is even more weird hihat dynamics. Because some hihat hit at the same time as kick and snare

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_leras wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:54 pm Have you tried a dynamic EQ/de-esser?
this is the first thing i'd try.

depending on what the hats are doing, a fast envelope on a few very narrow notches of a surgical dynamic eq. even trigger the sidechain with your snare or kick or both. Make a separate faux snare that shares the same syncopation as your loop, but don't use the audio, just send it to the sidchain of the eq, to duck the hats.

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Avoid loops and get a drum machine… You can still loop Midi… I bet the amount of time to find an audio loop versus a Midi loop is the same. But the fastest would be to actually play them… You only think you are lazy, and instead waste time with posting and searching for bad loops…

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I would try a dynamic EQ or mulitband compression to:
bring down the highs to reduce hihat to taste
Dynamic expansion to bring the highs back up again keyed by the snare midrange.

Should be able to do this with Nova GE, C6, Pro MB...

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For hi hats i recommend Transgressor 2 by Boz Digital Labs. Its an EQ that works on either the transient or the sustain of the incomming signal. The other tool i use for this is TDR Nova, place 1 eq band over the frequency you want to supress, activate sidechain trigger, place the trigger band far right to the high frequencies and dial in a trigger threshold which is only triggered by the hihats. If snare and hihats are in the same frequency area this does not really work though.

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DMGAudio Expurgate in Separated Mode. I've no experience with, but probably Unfiltered Audio G8 too.

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pawder wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 9:29 am If snare and hihats are in the same frequency area this does not really work though.
This is why I suggested the opposite approach: snare chain rattle will overlap hihats more than hihats overlap snare fundamental.

But for a dry, dark snare maybe the downwards compression will work well without doing too much harm!

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i'd just filter the whole loop and throw in a different snare as a layer.

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Programme your own loops from scratch and then you can do whatever you like, rather than using someone elses loops. Oh yeah; lazy 🤦‍♂️
I wonder what happens if I press this button...

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