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ELEX · Post by **ELEX** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:42 pm

Congrats, Green People ! ! Very well done !

And so we live and learn - only comment after voting time, it will make you win

solidtrax · Post by **solidtrax** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:50 pm

Congrats GREEN people

Very well deserved!

Taron · Post by **Taron** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:53 pm

ELEX wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:42 pm Congrats, Green People ! ! Very well done !

And so we live and learn - only comment after voting time, it will make you win

...yeah, a valuable lesson.

MilksterX · Post by **MilksterX** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:59 pm

Congrats Terje!

Christopher, TNS and other winners Well deserved. Thankyou all for all your votes and comments guys. Just being up there with some of the exceptional musical talent you all have is deeply humbling

Thanks again Richard & BJ for another OSC curveball!

schiing · Post by **schiing** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:28 pm

Oh no, I hope I haven't inadvertently changed the way comments are given!

Talk about stealing the spotlight for the past few pages - thank you ever so much! Taron, my mainstream Hollywood score beat your European art house - actually you're squeezed between two Hollywood adventures, with TheNeverScene (amazing, as ever) on third! Always go where the big bucks are! (kidding!) Honestly, I don't know if I could have pulled off what Taron did, which was amazing. I wanted him to stand alone on the top of my voting board, because in many ways I felt he was on another level than the rest of us – which I can now say is one of the other things that created some trouble for me in the voting process.

Congrats to fellow top fivers and everyone else, thanks to Richard and BJ for doing such a brilliant job, and apologies for being a bit of a downer. I will be on my best behaviour from now on.

I'll pass on my prize, but I'm honoured to accept the bonus prize.

violator_alba · Post by **violator_alba** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:46 pm

Well done folks at the top!

Taron · Post by **Taron** » Sat Dec 17, 2022 12:58 am

schiing wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:28 pm Oh no, I hope I haven't inadvertently changed the way comments are given!

Talk about stealing the spotlight for the past few pages - thank you ever so much! Taron, my mainstream Hollywood score beat your European art house - actually you're squeezed between two Hollywood adventures, with TheNeverScene (amazing, as ever) on third! Always go where the big bucks are! (kidding!) Honestly, I don't know if I could have pulled off what Taron did, which was amazing. I wanted him to stand alone on the top of my voting board, because in many ways I felt he was on another level than the rest of us – which I can now say is one of the other things that created some trouble for me in the voting process.

Congrats to fellow top fivers and everyone else, thanks to Richard and BJ for doing such a brilliant job, and apologies for being a bit of a downer. I will be on my best behaviour from now on.

I'll pass on my prize, but I'm honoured to accept the bonus prize.

Oh man, thank you so much.

...at least someone thought my piece was a 2 at best.

But I'm honestly happy for you, too!

You all did some great tracks!

Anyway, I'd love to get the ResonHeart bundle price, which appears to be an extra bonus, right? That's so sweet! I'm kind of giddy to try it out!

That means I still have something to pick. I'd go for some plugin from Red Rock Sound. Looks interesting! I can pick which one later, right, Richard (PM)?

singplumb · Post by **singplumb** » Sat Dec 17, 2022 1:51 am

Congrats to all the winners--I had great time, thanks to everyone!

BrainBeatMusic · Post by **BrainBeatMusic** » Sat Dec 17, 2022 4:30 am

Congratulations to the winners I agreed with 4 of the 5 of you giving a 5.

Wow, Shiing you were a misly scorer being the 2nd lowest scorer overall with only Mr Arkadin giving 3 points less than you.

Thanks to everyone who voted especially those who give my track a 5 I am so happy you liked my track that much. I would appreciate any feedback from those who only gave my track a 1 or 2 on what I could have done to improve my track.

Some general analysis of the data from the voting would seem many didn't actually find it as difficult to score the majority of tracks as I think there seems to be a bigger spread of scoring than usual. There would seem to have been a lot more 1's and 2's than usual with all but 2 getting at least 1 score under 3. There were actually fewer 5's (as a %) than last time too which surprises me but many more 4's with 55.19% of scores over a 3.

Good Luck on this month's comp and Merry Christmas everyone.

Harry_HH · Post by **Harry_HH** » Sat Dec 17, 2022 5:48 am

Congrats!

MilksterX · Post by **MilksterX** » Sat Dec 17, 2022 7:20 am

Hi all A lot of people asking in the comments how I did what I did along with comments on here and SC made by Terje & Taron saying what I did was highly questionable or illegal. I'd like to set the record straight about the amount of processing on the main elements in my track.

Drums
The drums were processed using pitching automation of the samples along with gate and volume automation. individual drum sounds had EQ applied, the kick had slight saturation applied and then the bus is going through OTT on low settings (depth 12%) and finally the API 2500 compressor plugin NY style parallel compression. As Jas pointed out there is a bit too much compression overall on the drums.

here's the kick with no processing:
https://soundcloud.com/milksterx/bbc-ki ... al_sharing

and with:

https://soundcloud.com/milksterx/bbc-ki ... al_sharing

Bass:
Each bass note was a separate instance of BBC SOD with the Staccato flute (to avoid some phase-ing issues when re-triggered) and on instance 3 there was an EQ just to give a slight sense of variation.

The samples I found to have the best characteristics of a distorted bass was the staccato flute samples played at -36 semitones.

Here it is without any processing.

https://soundcloud.com/milksterx/bbc-ba ... al_sharing

on the bass buss was an instance of frontier to provide compression and a small amount of soft clipping followed by free clip to only distort just the tail end of the sample as the volume increased passed it's threshold.

Here it is with the processing.

https://soundcloud.com/milksterx/bbc-ba ... al_sharing

I think those were the two main processed sounds questioned The rest was just LFOs & "mid 90s style block chords" with "no concern for orchestral dynamics"

My track's theme was indeed a "total novelty" - a tongue in cheek reference to the wonderful actress Alyson Hannigans' line in the film American Pie: referring to her unheard description of a sexual adventure whilst at band camp - which is probably why the arrangement was planned out accordingly as tension building followed by a huge release in the final section

I'm just glad so many of you saw it as worthy of a high score.

RichardSemper · Post by **RichardSemper** » Sat Dec 17, 2022 8:27 am

Taron wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 12:58 am
That means I still have something to pick. I'd go for some plugin from Red Rock Sound. Looks interesting! I can pick which one later, right, Richard (PM)?

no probs

] Peter:H [ · Post by **] Peter:H [** » Sat Dec 17, 2022 8:56 am

MilksterX wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 7:20 am Hi all A lot of people asking in the comments how I did what I did along with comments on here and SC made by Terje & Taron saying what I did was highly questionable or illegal. I'd like to set the record straight about the amount of processing on the main elements in my track.

Just don't justifiy yourself. You don't have to.
It's their problem not yours. If they expect you to use a piece of technology how they think a piece of technology is properly used and then kind of being disappointed that you don't meet their expectations ... bet whose problem that is.
This is like Mr. Commodore C64 still commenting every demo scene entry these days with "This is illegal use of Commodore C64. We never intended it to be used like that. Please use Basic Interpreter".
That said - congrats and well done to try to do out of the box thinking, push things to the bondary and avoiding to do what others expect you to do. And P6 proves you right.

Taron · Post by **Taron** » Sat Dec 17, 2022 9:24 am

MilksterX wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 7:20 am Hi all A lot of people asking in the comments how I did what I did along with comments on here and SC made by Terje & Taron saying what I did was highly questionable or illegal. I'd like to set the record straight about the amount of processing on the main elements in my track.

Drums
The drums were processed using pitching automation of the samples along with gate and volume automation. individual drum sounds had EQ applied, the kick had slight saturation applied and then the bus is going through OTT on low settings (depth 12%) and finally the API 2500 compressor plugin NY style parallel compression. As Jas pointed out there is a bit too much compression overall on the drums.

here's the kick with no processing:
https://soundcloud.com/milksterx/bbc-ki ... al_sharing

and with:

https://soundcloud.com/milksterx/bbc-ki ... al_sharing

Bass:
Each bass note was a separate instance of BBC SOD with the Staccato flute (to avoid some phase-ing issues when re-triggered) and on instance 3 there was an EQ just to give a slight sense of variation.

The samples I found to have the best characteristics of a distorted bass was the staccato flute samples played at -36 semitones.

Here it is without any processing.

https://soundcloud.com/milksterx/bbc-ba ... al_sharing

on the bass buss was an instance of frontier to provide compression and a small amount of soft clipping followed by free clip to only distort just the tail end of the sample as the volume increased passed it's threshold.

Here it is with the processing.

https://soundcloud.com/milksterx/bbc-ba ... al_sharing

I think those were the two main processed sounds questioned The rest was just LFOs & "mid 90s style block chords" with "no concern for orchestral dynamics"

My track's theme was indeed a "total novelty" - a tongue in cheek reference to the wonderful actress Alyson Hannigans' line in the film American Pie: referring to her unheard description of a sexual adventure whilst at band camp - which is probably why the arrangement was planned out accordingly as tension building followed by a huge release in the final section I'm just glad so many of you saw it as worthy of a high score.

W H A T ?
Are you having a weak day or so? When did you come to the impression I said anything AGAINST your track? I was praising you for your track, congratulating you on your choices and didn't I even give you a flipping 5er for it? What's happening?
I wonder, if somehow people cannot understand what I'm saying?
I must first have my coffee and smoke, otherwise I'll really say stuff I'll regret, but Milkster, you are out of your mind. I loved what you've done and nowhere have I said otherwise. That's just stupid.

MilksterX · Post by **MilksterX** » Sat Dec 17, 2022 9:35 am

Haha Taron I wasn't saying you were against me as such just that it was pointed out and rightly so! There's only so far you can get with orchestral samples before you have to start using mixing techniques to get you to where you want to go sonically. No offence meant to anyone just trying to show that things are not always as extreme as they sometimes may seem. Yes I went to the limits of what is allowed but I think any other genre maybe wouldn't have warranted the need to do so

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