SSL Blitzer Character Comp

[jinotsuh]

Worral's a wanker, a REAPER lovin' wanker at that. Can't stand the man.


I wish SSL wouldn't do this shit, but I guess it's their prerogative... still.
I think it's them who will lose out in the end, people for the most part just don't like Subscriptions, some may fold to the pressure, but I think the majority will hold firm, hope so anyways.

[dblock]

Worral's a wanker, a REAPER lovin' wanker at that. Can't stand the man.


"Some may fold to the pressure, but I think the majority will hold firm, hope so anyways."

No pressure, only competition.Enough competition that everybody has alternative choices.

[Robmobius]

It’s Dan Worrall’s Voice of God shtick that irks me.

I can't stand the man...

His voice and attitude remind me of that droning moaning robot from the Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Marvin (from the original series of course).

[Robmobius]

And no subs... I don't care how good the plugin is.

[zvenx]

It’s Dan Worrall’s Voice of God shtick that irks me. ...
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I thought I was the only one. His tone always comes as way too smug for me.

rsp

[plexuss]

It’s Dan Worrall’s Voice of God shtick that irks me.

I can't stand the man...

His voice and attitude remind me of that droning moaning robot from the Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Marvin (from the original series of course).

I was going to say that I don't care how he says it, I care about what he says. And Worrall is pretty spot-on most of the time. But I can't say that because even though Kenny Joya has great content I simply can not watch him because his constant pausing between sentence fragments irritates me. You can't please everybody...

[Robmobius]

I was going to say that I don't care how he says it, I care about what he says. And Worrall is pretty spot-on most of the time.

As much as I dislike the guy I agree with you. He knows what he's talking about in fairness.

[jamcat]

All I’ve ever heard Worrall talk about is aliasing. Kind of like Wytse and auto-gain.

In the real world, I’ve never once thought, “gee, this would be a good song if it weren’t for the -58dB aliasing in the 3rd order harmonics of that saturated sine wave.”

[masterhiggins]

Ridiculous – Worrall is great! I like Warren Huart but he's not the deepest plugin reviewer.

Whenever I hear Dan say Hi I think of Ross from friends:

[DCrown]

All I’ve ever heard Worrall talk about is aliasing. Kind of like Wytse and auto-gain.

In the real world, I’ve never once thought, “gee, this would be a good song if it weren’t for the -58dB aliasing in the 3rd order harmonics of that saturated sine wave.”

It's because their decision or conclusions refer to Plugindoctor,
Drama Third, Wytse clown and no face Warroll, whose unvisibility and teen language try to hide his old age, they all use Plugindoctor regularly.
Everyone could use Plugindoctor by himself, it's affordable and won't really tell you whether a plugin is good for you or not. Decapitator for example is said to be the king of aliasing, but who cares?!
And autogain doesn't matter to me, every daw has a volume slider, doesn't it?!

[plexuss]

I use Plugin Doctor to get a better idea of a plugin is doing for the added insight and to help better use my tools. I never use it to look for aliasing etc. I use my ears to determine the quality of the audio.

[Frankie.T]

Knowing how a tool alias even if it sounds good, help with different decisions. I.e. If you are working on a classical music mix, or anything that need the mantain his natural characteristic, you don't want to use different plugins that all bring lots of aliasing, cause it will break the mix/master.
Sometime it's not just about a plugin by itself, cause the plugin could even sound good with lots of aliasing, but if you use too many with the same behavior, on certain situation you may ruin the song you are working with.

So have this knowledge can help you to get a more natural mix. Not every song it's edm/rock/trap or whatever sounds like distortion. Then this information can be useful or not, it's just depend on you. Everyone have their own thoughts and a different approach to music production/mixing/mastering. I think content creator do a good job while including informations that can be useful for someone, that's why i use plugin doctor when i think can be useful for someone.
At the end, youtube also offer a slider to skip a part if not of interest, and also chapter where people can watch what they prefer.

[DCrown]

Lol I see, so instead of using ears only,
Plugindoctor is the one, who decides whether something is usable, good or bad.
For natural sound, maybe try the Al Schmitt way and focus on good mic placement, room treatment, performing skills and technique (singer, guitarist etc.) and good choice of gear and then don't be surprised if you almost don't need no plugin at all.
Also the psychological factor is completely overseen; you use some plugins in a mix and actually it sounds well, but then you check the plugins with plugindoctor and plugin A , B and C have some aliasing, you listen again and will automatically think the mix and plugins are not good because of some aliasing probably no human could hear or it is a specific good character of a plugin. I am not surprised that most music sounds the way it sounds today, boring super clean. I immediately stop watching whenever I see plugindoctor on yt.
Sonic quality should be judged by ears only without any misleading influence.
The engineer I like best is Bernie Grundman, videos with him and his words and knowledge reflect his well deserved reputation over many, many years.
The overuse of mainly three plugins are to blame for the fact that in many productions the life is sucked out of a mix imo

[imrae]

All I’ve ever heard Worrall talk about is aliasing.

Then you clearly haven’t watched much of his stuff. He’s mostly known for doing really slick official feature tours of products.

I’m finding most of these Plugin Doctor complaints to be rather disingenuous straw-man stuff. It reminds me a lot of the anti-intellectual “learning music theory would hurt my creativity” stuff we sometimes see around here.

Perhaps there are some reviewers that are leaning too heavily on the linear analysis; PT does seem to be learning as he goes, and I have little patience for Wytse’s “don’t read the manual” approach.

But in the kind of DW video under discussion, Plugin Doctor is used to a) demonstrate/teach principles b) test specific claims by developers c) speculate about how a plugin is implemented. These all seem like legit uses, and may guide further listening tests and null tests. I can’t think of any video where Dan said that a plugin must sound bad because of how it looks in Plugin Doctor. I can think of several times that he has followed up with a demonstration that differences were subtle to inaudible in practice.

There are responsible ways to use these things, and some people are using them to call out misleading marketing or bad design. Why is that so distressing?

I appreciate that we are now rather off-topic, but like everyone else in the thread I have no interest in an SSL subscription and we don’t seem to be interrupting a lively discussion of this (quite possibly good but essentially inaccessible) plugin.

[jamcat]

All I’ve ever heard Worrall talk about is aliasing.

Then you clearly haven’t watched much of his stuff. He’s mostly known for doing really slick official feature tours of products.

OK, I’ll revise:
All I’ve ever heard Whorerall talk about is aliasing and FabFilter.


Less off-topically, I would love to have the SSL 4000 B plugin just for the modeled preamp, but I only buy plugins. I do not rent them.