Do Solfeggio Frequencies heal and should we not redefine the prime numbers?

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donkey tugger wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 10:02 am I've done a bit of calculating, and after a lot of work I've got one of them new prime numbers;


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ah, the music of the spheres ...

ill just be outside waiting for my taxi.
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Healing????? Utter bollox!
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CinningBao wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 9:44 am Jafo, if all you're going to bring to this discussion is "you don't know what you're talking about", but not actually bring anything else of any value, it's probably best to be quiet.
So when did you get appointed to dictate what does and does not have value?

Asking for a friend who considers the public scorn of pseudo-science to have intrinsic value.
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Red is Red and anything that is Red is an object, a class in itself or a real thing if you prefer"

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Shabdahbriah wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:15 am
Does not work. Interference! The base saw wave contains far too many harmonic overtones.
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CinningBao wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 9:44 am Jafo, if all you're going to bring to this discussion is "you don't know what you're talking about", but not actually bring anything else of any value, it's probably best to be quiet. Wouldn't you agree?"
Big words from somebody who doesn't know what a prime number is!

See, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence; all of your evidence amounts to wonder that x × y = c, and how that makes c a prime number. (See, a prime number is any number that no other number except 1 divides into with an integer result.)

Do you know what constitutes evidence?
You don't understand the universe and it's making any better than anybody else here, and you speak in an incredibly demeaning way; can I suggest you back off and let your own mind wander with the unknown mysteries of life while letting other people discuss things in a way that suits them.
I'm sorry that having the flaws in your... scheme of things? without any reference to you yourself, makes you feel attacked.

I know that anybody contradicting known facts by means of misleading language, an appeal to feigned superiority, and a complete lack of evidence, is either religious, a charlatan, or a fool -- or all of the three. NOW I'm demeaning you. See the difference? Here, I attacked you, not your logic.

And now I'm respectful again. Evidence is what allows us to determine facts, because anybody can claim anything, and that gets us nowhere. What counts as evidence is basically observable events backed up by statistics -- various independent teams discover that X causes Y, basically.

If you have evidence that doesn't depend on preexisting belief, please present it! I would love it if all I had to do when I break a leg is play FMaj7. But people have been trying to do this for thousands of years, and it has never once worked in a way statistically distinguishable from pure placebo.
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First I want to make my verdict of the solfeggio numbers in music and their healing qualities:

Verdict from a logical standpoint:
a) These frequencies (f), that people claim to be healing, do not stand, because there are other frequencies that have the same properties (the divisible checksum).
b) When you take these f and lower it to the lower octaves you do not get natural numbers and no prime numbers either.

From a standpoint of healing:
I cannot tell, but we are walking on thin ice here.

From a standpoint of sounding I must say each of this f sounds ok by itself. But together they do not sound nice. Play all of them together and you can judge yourself. But this is a subjective matter. But what is sold in the big world must not always contain, what is written on the label.

From a standpoint of mathematics and prime numbers I will write my thesis and publish it here. My claim is, that the number 2 is in the realm of frequencies not a prime, although in the realm of pure mathematics it is.
artie fichelle sounds natural

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Artie Fichelle wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 4:58 pm First I want to make my verdict of the solfeggio numbers in music and their healing qualities:

Verdict from a logical standpoint:
a) These frequencies (f), that people claim to be healing, do not stand, because there are other frequencies that have the same properties (the divisible checksum).
b) When you take these f and lower it to the lower octaves you do not get natural numbers and no prime numbers either.

From a standpoint of healing:
I cannot tell, but we are walking on thin ice here.

From a standpoint of sounding I must say each of this f sounds ok by itself. But together they do not sound nice. Play all of them together and you can judge yourself. But this is a subjective matter. But what is sold in the big world must not always contain, what is written on the label.

From a standpoint of mathematics and prime numbers I will write my thesis and publish it here. My claim is, that the number 2 is in the realm of frequencies not a prime, although in the realm of pure mathematics it is.
you should be careful, messing with things you don't understand.
if the premise is true, and there are frequencies that can heal, then the opposite is also likely to be true, and the wrong frequency might give you piles.
or open dimensional portals to the netherworld.
i don't know much about healing, but the occult use of sound, and its effect upon the plastic regions of the brain, i do know of!
do what thou wilt, but be careful with that axe artie!
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donkey tugger wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 5:52 pm Some background on this particular variant of blather and balderdash;

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Sound_healing

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Solfeggio_frequencies

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Leonard_Horowitz

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look, the beard says wizard, deal with it.

/rolls a 3.

dammit, you were lucky this time!!!
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in my defence before you go all science bastard on me...
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vurt wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 5:58 pm
donkey tugger wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 5:52 pm Some background on this particular variant of blather and balderdash;

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Sound_healing

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Solfeggio_frequencies

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Leonard_Horowitz

:nutter:
look, the beard says wizard, deal with it.

/rolls a 3.

dammit, you were lucky this time!!!
Easy there Paul Daniels.

This stuff does look like a laugh though. I think on Wednesday I'll make up my own healing guff based on the numbering in the 1985 Transport Act;

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1985/67/contents

Roll the dice, cancel a few things... :hihi:

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vurt wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 6:00 pm in my defence before you go all science bastard on me...
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You blame your credulity on dried houmous? :o

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it's a houmous carving of michael winner!
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donkey tugger wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 5:52 pm Some background on this particular variant of blather and balderdash;

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Sound_healing

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Solfeggio_frequencies

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Leonard_Horowitz

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i suppose, we could say sound is an aid to healing
not any particular frequency, but music we enjoy, can help calm the mins, which in turn leads to relaxation and rest, which again can help with healing.
but only to an extent, and no more than a good book might.

my point, before discussing anything, we need to know the limits and expectations.

if someone asks "can sound cure my cancer?"
id probably say no
if they said "ive not had a very good sleep lately" i might suggest some mellow ambient music.
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vurt wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 6:58 pm
donkey tugger wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 5:52 pm Some background on this particular variant of blather and balderdash;

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Sound_healing

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Solfeggio_frequencies

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Leonard_Horowitz

:nutter:
i suppose, we could say sound is an aid to healing
not any particular frequency, but music we enjoy, can help calm the mins, which in turn leads to relaxation and rest, which again can help with healing.
but only to an extent, and no more than a good book might.

my point, before discussing anything, we need to know the limits and expectations.

if someone asks "can sound cure my cancer?"
id probably say no
if they said "ive not had a very good sleep lately" i might suggest some mellow ambient music.
That's a completely different thing than this arsewittery though, as per the first link;

"Sound healing is not to be confused with the legitimate practice of music therapy. In short, to put it succinctly, sound healing is not a sound therapy."

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