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chagzuki · Post by **chagzuki** » Tue Dec 13, 2022 4:23 pm

vitocorleone123 wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 4:02 pm TC's early reflections are well-implemented and pretty easy to use. They're excellent, and stand above the majority of algo reverbs currently on the market.

CR Pro is even better to my ears, but also provides more controls to manipulate the early reflections, which also adds complexity. Unless you're directly comparing the two and listening closely... well...

Funny thing is that I thought was covered in this department, I already had a lot of reverbs which seemed to occupy a rough plateau that I imagined was top tier. I'm scared to demo CR as I'll probably want it... I figure I'll leave it until next year, but the risk there is that it will make me feel I have to go back to old tracks all over again and rework the reverb.

masterhiggins · Post by **masterhiggins** » Wed Dec 14, 2022 1:00 am

chagzuki wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 4:23 pm
vitocorleone123 wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 4:02 pm TC's early reflections are well-implemented and pretty easy to use. They're excellent, and stand above the majority of algo reverbs currently on the market.

CR Pro is even better to my ears, but also provides more controls to manipulate the early reflections, which also adds complexity. Unless you're directly comparing the two and listening closely... well...
Funny thing is that I thought was covered in this department, I already had a lot of reverbs which seemed to occupy a rough plateau that I imagined was top tier. I'm scared to demo CR as I'll probably want it... I figure I'll leave it until next year, but the risk there is that it will make me feel I have to go back to old tracks all over again and rework the reverb.

Strangely, that was my least fav liquidsonics reverb. For realistic spaces Stratus seemed to sound more “real” than CR did. I didn’t like the early reflections. I love Tai Chi, Hdcart, and seventh heaven, though.

sqigls · Post by **sqigls** » Wed Dec 14, 2022 8:16 am

same, i regularly use Tai Chi and Luscious Plates, but i don't really gel with Cinematic Rooms.

I'd just use one of the Exponential verbs or Neoverb, (which i bought for $25 knowing the EA verbs are discontinued).

Maybe it sounds better in 5.1 ?

vitocorleone123 · Post by **vitocorleone123** » Thu Dec 15, 2022 5:43 am

masterhiggins wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 1:00 am
chagzuki wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 4:23 pm
vitocorleone123 wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 4:02 pm TC's early reflections are well-implemented and pretty easy to use. They're excellent, and stand above the majority of algo reverbs currently on the market.

CR Pro is even better to my ears, but also provides more controls to manipulate the early reflections, which also adds complexity. Unless you're directly comparing the two and listening closely... well...
Funny thing is that I thought was covered in this department, I already had a lot of reverbs which seemed to occupy a rough plateau that I imagined was top tier. I'm scared to demo CR as I'll probably want it... I figure I'll leave it until next year, but the risk there is that it will make me feel I have to go back to old tracks all over again and rework the reverb.
Strangely, that was my least fav liquidsonics reverb. For realistic spaces Stratus seemed to sound more “real” than CR did. I didn’t like the early reflections. I love Tai Chi, Hdcart, and seventh heaven, though.

It’s very subjective and there’s no right or wrong except choosing one you don’t like. I dislike Big Sky and many love it.

For me, there’s no comparison - CRP all the way (I liked the ERs better than in the standard version). Also for a number of people in Hollywood, apparently! CRP is so beautiful it’s nearly brought tears to my eyes at times.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sun Dec 25, 2022 12:35 pm

If you have CR Pro do you also get the standard version? I just tried using my Pro coupon but it wasn't accepted so maybe it isn't needed?

MogwaiBoy · Post by **MogwaiBoy** » Sun Dec 25, 2022 8:56 pm

aMUSEd wrote: Sun Dec 25, 2022 12:35 pm If you have CR Pro do you also get the standard version? I just tried using my Pro coupon but it wasn't accepted so maybe it isn't needed?

Seems like it should work

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aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sun Dec 25, 2022 9:00 pm

Cool thanks

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Mon Dec 26, 2022 3:18 pm

Just demoing Tai Chi, very tasty indeed.

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Mon Dec 26, 2022 5:10 pm

Testing Liquid Sonic's reverb Tai Chi using various percussive one-shot samples, tweaking some parameters on the fly.

sqigls · Post by **sqigls** » Tue Dec 27, 2022 12:27 am

Sampleconstruct wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 3:18 pm Just demoing Tai Chi, very tasty indeed.

a Patchpool Tai Chi soundbank would be interesting Simon

not just the long tails, i'd like to hear what you'd do with the chorus and early reflection possibilities. The multiband section is great, but i know i've not even scratched the surface of what this verb can do. I use it too similarly to Pro-R, finding little frequency pockets for instruments. Which it's great at, but the chorus at least begs for more extreme experimentation.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Tue Dec 27, 2022 1:11 am

chagzuki wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 4:23 pm I figure I'll leave it until next year, but the risk there is that it will make me feel I have to go back to old tracks all over again and rework the reverb.

That's exactly what I did with my current project. The client changed how audio was brought in (now much better, but different) so I used that and the new CR Pro to justify reworking all the reverb sends.

Samplicity · Post by **Samplicity** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:34 pm

simmo75 · Post by **simmo75** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 2:25 pm

Seventh Heaven and Cinematic Pro, amazing reverbs!

vitocorleone123 · Post by **vitocorleone123** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 3:21 pm

Samplicity wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:34 pm Mentioned on the first pages of this thread, Samplicity has been sharing its well appreciated Bricasti M7 impulse responses for free since 2010.

Since November 2022 Samplicity now also offers reverb plugins, including its own simulation of the Bricasti M7, the BM7 plugin, with control over early reflections and tail, pre-delay, reverb length, and including a five band equalizer. 134 presets.

The BM7 plugin is now on sale for $119 and its new sibling, the 480 for $89:

https://samplicity.com/shop/gemini-bm7/

https://samplicity.com/shop/gemini-480/

The Berlin Studio plugin is meant for people who want to apply the real captured acoustics of a large (orchestral) studio:

https://samplicity.com/shop/berlin-studio/

Cheers,
Peter

Trying to advertise your non-Liquidsonics products in a Liquidsonics-oriented thread lacks a little class.

chagzuki · Post by **chagzuki** » Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:31 am

I've recently gotten around to demoing Cinematic Rooms Pro, in stereo config rather than surround. It's got me thinking/wondering about reverb design due to the crossfeed control. It's marketed as a naturalistic reverb, but the crossfeed aspect is unlike most other reverbs I've seen except Valhalla Room, and it seems to me not naturalistic. I.e. with crossfeed value low both the early reflections and tail can behave more like a dual-mono reverb in terms of tracking the panning position of the source, and I don't see how real-world acoustics could behave in that manner. I haven't yet been able to test it in mixes, but it strikes me as likely to maintain a more defined soundstage by maintaining spacial separation between elements. People often talk about the depth of the reverb, but I wonder if its virtue is more to do with maintaining sense of stereo position in a manner which may sound 'cinematic' (i.e. grand) but not really naturalistic.

Which LiquidSonics Reverb?