Studio One 6

[soulata]

Best I can get at Best Service is 139€ - 20€.

[Bartone]

Some people talk it is not big money to buy Studio One update full price vs wait for didcounted update price. But for some people that so called small money can be big money, especially now.

Naturally there are people who have money to spend, but it does not mean everyone is so lucky.

[Crossinger]

Some people talk it is not big money to buy Studio One update full price vs wait for didcounted update price. But for some people that so called small money can be big money, especially now.

Naturally there are people who have money to spend, but it does not mean everyone is so lucky.

Basically I agree with you, but on the one hand, manufacturers are not required to align their sales with social principles. On the other hand, it is not mandatory for people with little money to have the latest and greatest. There are still enough people here in the forum who use v4 or v5, without this necessarily having to do with their financial situation. And as I said before: The offers for full versions and crossgrades were very cheap on Black Friday!

[jinotsuh]

I just checked, and I got Studio One Pro 6 upgrade on release for $115.71, the best now, 3 months on, seems to be $104, is the 3 month wait really worth it for $10? Personally I would say not, but that's my opinion for my circumstances, ymmv of course.

[jamcat]

I agree. I’ve argued many times here that time is money. You are paying to use software, not to collect it.

[Vocalpoint Studios]

Naturally there are people who have money to spend, but it does not mean everyone is so lucky.

So - does this make you "unlucky" (Not that luck really has has anything to with getting/having/keeping money OR being able to afford buy things).

If affordablity is a sore spot for you - being in digital recording, DAWs, Plugins, hardware etc is probably not where you need to be.

If I was to name one pure unadulterated endless pit of spending - it's this. Then again - I can think of many other worse ways to waste available cash...

VP

[Bartone]

Like I said, some people have money to spend, some people don't. Seems some people find it hard to understand that even something you think is "small" monay can be big money for others.

I just find it quite mean to say if people don't have as much money as some others, they should not do digital recording = make music. That is actually very rude. Why do you think people with less money should not make music?

[Vocalpoint Studios]

Why do you think people with less money should not make music?

I certainly did not say people with less money should not "make music". I did say that the entire scope of digital recording (DAWs, plugs, hardware etc etc) can be an endless money pit and that anyone who chooses to enter this scene and then complains that things (like Studio One upgrades) are "big money" - might consider picking a different hobby.

And on this:

Seems some people find it hard to understand that even something you think is "small" monay can be big money for others.

To be honest I really don't care if anyone else can afford it OR what how the price sits with them. I worry about whether I think I can afford it and if it's worth it. If I like it - I buy it. If I do not like it - I don't buy it. Simple.

And as others have mentioned - there is no requirement/entitlement for those on smaller budgets to keep pace with anyone. Matter of fact - even though I can afford my Studio One upgrade - no one is twisting my arm either - being on v6 is not a requirement for anyone and no one is forcing anyone to upgrade either.

Seems you are confused about new and shiny and auditing your budget. If you can afford an upgrade - buy it, enjoy and keep on keeping on. But if you can't afford it - please don't come in here complaining about pricing and dropping sad sack comments about how some folks are suddenly "lucky" to be able to afford something and others are - well I guess unlucky?

Jeez - I almost take offense to you thinking I am "lucky" because I work hard, do my thing with purpose and get paid. I mean cmon dude.

VP

[chk071]

Like I said, some people have money to spend, some people don't. Seems some people find it hard to understand that even something you think is "small" monay can be big money for others.

I just find it quite mean to say if people don't have as much money as some others, they should not do digital recording = make music. That is actually very rude. Why do you think people with less money should not make music?

He/she/it has said nothing remotely resembling that.

Lack of money isn't the issue here anyway. It's the keeping in line with paid upgrades every 2 years. I'm pretty tired of that, spending money without any substantial gain. Holds true for plugins as well, of course.

Just look at all the marketing for new DAW versions or plugins. It's basically "buy, buy, buy". And at the latest after half a year, nobody talks about the shiny new DAW or plugins anymore, but already lusts for the next new thing. That's a perfect hotbed for those "quasi subscription" paid upgrade schemes.

And, it makes perfect sense that they mainly target the hobbyists with that. I would imagine that those are much inclined to buy every new version than the pros who surely for a big part rather look for continuity and stability for their arsenal and workflow.

[tonedef71]

pure unadulterated endless pit of spending

May I use this (verbatim, or a derivative thereof) as a song title?

[Bartone]

I don't say Presonus NEED to make update discount. I just say it is different than it has been before Fender bought Presonus (I have read before Fender the discount for update did come faster than now).

I also say, Presonus is giving discount to NEW customers only at this point. It is different than before Fender when also old customers did get the discount. They are facts, how things are.

If I don't have that money to spend,I have to wait until the price is lower and I have the money. Simple yes. Naturally it would be nicer not to wait so long but then again it is what it is. Then again, I do not even know if I will update since I don not know if I need the update. And I think many people are thinking if they need the update = does it bring something so important they a re willing to give so much money for it?

I don't think it's complaining really. I think more discussing the situation, how things are and valuate if there is something worth the update and anticipating when the discount will come to old customers.

[Vocalpoint Studios]

It's the keeping in line with paid upgrades every 2 years. I'm pretty tired of that, spending money without any substantial gain. Holds true for plugins as well, of course.

AKA - Money Pit. That said - for those that that see this as "keeping in line" with paid upgrades - that is not a requirement either. Presonus (or any vendor) is not forcing anyone to upgrade nor should you if you do not see the value.

But in this case - as I have mentioned on a few other locations - lots of seasoned Studio One users and new users alike - get sucked into this old school way of thinking about each major upgrade as if thats all you will get.

True - the initial release of S1 v6 was tame by usual standards. At first glance - not exactly what one would call "feature rich" - but as many of us who have been with this DAW for many a year (11 for me) - the release of a new major version is just the start of good things to come. 6.0.0 - 6.0.2 is not a reason to jump up and down but wait until mid cycle when Presonus starts rolling out cool new things with a 6.2 or a 6.5 that always appear to show up out of nowhere and generally dazzle. And it all appears to be free.

Unlike other vendors who release some big major upgrade and then do nothing until the next major release (Yeah, I'm looking directly at you makers of ACDSee) I like to think Presonus first sets the table, delivers the appetizers and then gets to the main course a year from now.

By the time you rack up all the goodness that happens - end to end in a typical cycle - that 150 bucks or whatever it is to upgrade seems like an incredible bargain.

Cheers

VP

[Vocalpoint Studios]

pure unadulterated endless pit of spending

May I use this (verbatim, or a derivative thereof) as a song title?

You may.

VP

[Vocalpoint Studios]

I also say, Presonus is giving discount to NEW customers only at this point. It is different than before Fender when also old customers did get the discount. They are facts, how things are.

Fender (or no Fender) - unless it's massively different to upgrade in different parts of the world - I want to state emphatically that here (Canada) I have paid exactly $149.00 dollars for every S1 upgrade since V1->V2.

Same price - static for 10+ years? I mean who does that? How can this be a bad thing?

That said - if there is some sort of crazy wild pricing model for S1 upgrades that I am not aware of - please enlighten me.

VP

[chk071]

It's the keeping in line with paid upgrades every 2 years. I'm pretty tired of that, spending money without any substantial gain. Holds true for plugins as well, of course.

AKA - Money Pit. That said - for those that that see this as "keeping in line" with paid upgrades - that is not a requirement either. Presonus (or any vendor) is not forcing anyone to upgrade nor should you if you do not see the value.

True, although, at some point it is likely that you will have to upgrade, especially when you're on a Mac computer and an OS or hardware which breaks compatibility with older software. I don't know how long Presonus maintains former versions of their DAW, but, as I saw it, it's a few months, max.

Not much of an issue on Windows, of course.